#indieweb 2018-11-19
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cambridgeport90[ Good morning. Or evening. Whatever time it might be.
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gRegorLove what is ugt?
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Loqi Universal Greeting Time is the convention of greeting people in online chat with "good morning" regardless of the local time of day of either person https://indieweb.org/UGT
# gRegorLove Morning, cambridgeport90 o/
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[jgmac1106] Good morning
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# cambridgeport90[ By the way, does anyone know of any. NET Framework implementations of these standards? Those are the communities that often have no clue what I'm talking about when I mentioned this.
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# gRegorLove cambridgeport90[, I'm not familiar with any. If the community is aware of them they should be listed in the Implementations section on the wiki page
# cambridgeport90[ I wonder how easy they are to implement. I only say that because in the not-too-distant future, that's where I think I could help the most. I'm surprised.
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# gRegorLove That would be awesome, cambridgeport90[. Webmention should be a relatively easy one.
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# cambridgeport90[ And That's odd. Wonder why I can't see the channels from this room? Shouldn't they show up above here?
# cambridgeport90[ I am. Is it better to just use IRC clients directly? I evidently had a brain fart and thought that this was a Synapse server LOL.
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aaronpk it's also bridged to slack if that's your thing https://indieweb.org/discuss
# cambridgeport90[ This whole bridging of services is definitely something to get used to. What is the advantage between using the Matrix or the IRC protocol, then? Don't they both allow you to own your server?
# cambridgeport90[ Makes a lot of sense, actually. But what happened to the other channels in here? Meta, dev, and so on? Do you have to join them separately when using the Riot client?
# cambridgeport90[ Interesting.
# cambridgeport90[ Ah. So each channel has a link to it?
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# gRegorLove The canonical channels are separate channels on IRC, so you have to join them manually. Matrix is probably the same.
# gRegorLove On Slack people can invite you to rooms, or you can manually join them.
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# cambridgeport90_ cambridgeport90This is a test.
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# cambridgeport90[ You guys can freely ignore that. I was testing a client over here. I didn't actually think that was going to work.
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mlncn Anyone here actually run the "Our incredible journey" site? Here's another entry... https://twitter.com/HongPong/status/1064360197022511104
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@HongPong TwitterCounter ran out of runway!! too bad that these social media 'ecosystems' don't produce viable businesses eh https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsVd2-IVYAAHXj3.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1064360197022511104)
# mlncn OK doesn't look like Phil Gyford is in here... i'd never read the about page to see who runs https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/
# Loqi [indienews] New post: https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/11/18/14/note/
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Twitter Counter" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Twitter Counter is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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# [Vincent] Morning IndieWeb
# gooooootime Good morning
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# [jgmac1106] Good morning
# gooooootime Good morning
# [jgmac1106] Today's debate, I had so much fun laying out my article template and then building the h-feed on and laying out articles.
# gooooootime Yay!
# [jgmac1106] Working on idno plugins thought Known would be php form->database - > render page... But it plays with data in fun and interesting ways
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[kevinmarks] It has an abstraction inbetween because it wa originally on a nosql backend before being made MySQL compatible
# [jgmac1106] I find myself just wishing each post type wS plan html file I copy and paste.... Wondering if I have skillsetvto try something like perch runway.
# [jgmac1106] Ahhh that makes sense. I did not understand role of the middleman
# [jgmac1106] Think strategy will be stick with Known and slowly add post type and plumbing to home page
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# [jgmac1106] Morning Kevin, Martin, Peter, and gooodtimes
# [jgmac1106] Goootime, sorry had images of JJ in my heaf
# gooooootime No worries
# [jgmac1106] Who is gooooootime?
# gooooootime I’m gooooootime
# [jgmac1106] Either I can't count my o's or you don't have a wiki page
# gooooootime I hope I don’t
# [jgmac1106] Sorry about that. We can ask the bot about people with registered chat names
# [jgmac1106] Who is jgmac1106?
# Loqi J. Gregory McVerry (Greg) is an educator trying to use the web to help engineer better teachers https://indieweb.org/User:Jgregorymcverry.com
# gooooootime Wow
# [jgmac1106] Freaks people out when folks try and they aren't on yet...
# [jgmac1106] Like "Why you asking who I am. In third pwrseI am right here? Yeah Loqi does all the awesome stuff.
# gooooootime Lol
# [jgmac1106] !calc 2000-4/2
# [jgmac1106] What is webmention?
# Loqi Webmention is a web standard for mentions and conversations across the web, a powerful building block that is used for a growing federated network of comments, likes, reposts, and other rich interactions across the decentralized social web https://indieweb.org/Webmention
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# [jgmac1106] What time is it for Kevinmarks?
# [jgmac1106] This is how bots should work
# gooooootime Tough problem to have
# [jgmac1106] Though Loqi failed me on meme generation
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petermolnar !meme Loqi
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# gooooootime Loqi: is pretty cool
# [jgmac1106] Loqi++
# gooooootime What other channels is Loqi in?
# [jgmac1106] All of them
# [jgmac1106] Just note chat isn't archived and considered off record
# gooooootime Not all of them clearly
# gooooootime Or what is “them”?
# Loqi Join the #indieweb discussions via the web, IRC, Matrix, or Slack, now with additional channels for dev, wordpress, and meta specific chat! https://indieweb.org/discuss
# gooooootime Oh thanks
# [jgmac1106] Zegnat doing the morning commute?
# petermolnar I kind of regret I didn't bring up the themes/color schemes as a session in Berlin
# petermolnar when is next iwc?
# Loqi IndieWebCamp Austin 2019 is on 2019-02-23 at Capital Factory https://indieweb.org/next-iwc
# [jgmac1106] We don't have dates set for online yet. Ping [eddie]
# petermolnar I still have mixed feelings about an online iwc
# petermolnar hwc, sure, iwc, not that certain
# [jgmac1106] Further West we go harder it gets for EU to remote
# petermolnar that applies to further East as well :)
# [jgmac1106] ... Well we won't know till we try... I have organized a few 100% online conferences, you mix up synch, asynch, one way, and multiple direction feeds
# [jgmac1106] Yes we need an IWC Tokyo but that me so far east you coming back west again
# petermolnar IWC Seoul is more likely
# [jgmac1106] petermolnar are you using a Jekyll site?
# petermolnar I never used a Jekyll site :)
# petermolnar I have vague memories of some wiki pages trasnlated to Korean
# petermolnar is my memory tricking me?
# [jgmac1106] What are your bones built on... Gonna stick to Known but having ton of fun building front end of my site... Want to think ahead when I can do it on my own
# [jgmac1106] IWC Phuket
# petermolnar [jgmac1106]: https://github.com/petermolnar/nasg/ - a big fat Python script
# petermolnar I need to update the readme
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# [Vincent] [jgmac1106] I’m using Jekyll. Although looking at Eleventy https://www.11ty.io/docs/
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# petermolnar [jgmac1106]: the thing is, static generators, in their core, are extremely simple things: a for loop and a format converter
# [jgmac1106] Debating perch runway as kind of training wheels, Known just works, but building my article h-feed was fun...
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
# [jgmac1106] And I just can't see spending hours writing and maintaining plugins for html files I can write in seconds
# [jgmac1106] Morning Jeremy.
# petermolnar you write some template files, write your content in a html wysiwyg, run that for loop, site done
# petermolnar the tricky part is to integrate with services
# petermolnar that complicates it
# petermolnar and images. images are nasty.
# [jgmac1106] That is where ai might use perch runway
# [jgmac1106] S3 integration and blogging plumbing with native webmentions
# petermolnar what is perch runway?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "perch runway" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "perch runway is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [jgmac1106] What is perch?
# Loqi Perch and Perch Runway are a content management systems based on PHP+MySQL https://indieweb.org/Perch
# [jgmac1106] I don't know how to write redirects but what is perch runway should be redirected to that
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# [jgmac1106] Will take me time, want to layout entire website first
# petermolnar redirects: <?php header("Location: $target"); ?>
# petermolnar done ;)
# [jgmac1106] So I will hang with Jeremy on Known for awhile
# [jgmac1106] No, I mean the Loqi question
# [jgmac1106] Thx
# [jgmac1106] Still looking for any CSS Grid examples for threaded comment feeds, built mine super simple, they just stack with an arrow icon to indicate thread
# [jgmac1106] Well off to start my day
# [jgmac1106] Rachel Andrew, who also runs gridbyexame, does Perch and she is #IndieWeb ally... Figure plumbing and pretty with that CMS
# petermolnar [jgmac1106]: I don't see the point in CSS grids for comment threads
# petermolnar could it not be handled by nested blocquotes?
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# petermolnar found it! https://indieweb.org/Main_Page-ko
# petermolnar hence Seoul
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# cambridgeport90[ Possibly weird one. Does Sempress work with BBPress?
# cambridgeport90[ I want to use that theme on one of my sites which also has a message board, and I rather not screw anything up. I've heard that if you put the wrong theme in there, you can have some hell to p
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# [kevinmarks] any tips for converting etherpad into mediawiki? https://post.lurk.org/@wendy/101097137263392362
# Loqi [dywen] --> Looking for some markup-markdown tips.I'm trying to convert an etherpad pad to put in a mediawiki page.
--> exporting the pad to markdown gives me the following: - Gutenberg = Books
\url
{http://www.gutenberg.org/}
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# [kevinmarks] Twitter advertising how bad they are at identity: https://twitter.com/johnlewis/status/1064505239770931202?s=09
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@johnlewis You've been asking about the John Lewis advert, well here it is... @TwitterUK gave me a starring role in my very own Christmas #ad #NotARetailStore https://twitter.com/johnlewis/status/1064505239770931202/video/1 (twitter.com/_/status/1064505239770931202)
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# [jgmac1106] hey Taco Dave
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# [jgmac1106] ...if you read up it isn't happened last week, Apple won't at least publicly, give an answer but most assume it is sex positive erotica community and Apple's puritanical content standards
# [jgmac1106] https://notepin.co/jgmac1106/ this is a cute little note posting UI
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# petermolnar I'm leaning towards documenting and backfilling the tumblr purge sprees
# petermolnar what is tumblr?
# Loqi Tumblr is a popular content hosting silo, especially for found images & video, that explicitly supports multiple types of posts, and through free domain mapping, a content hosting service as well https://indieweb.org/Tumblr
# Loqi ok, I added "https://newrepublic.com/article/129002/secret-lives-tumblr-teens" to the "See Also" section of /Tumblr https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=54101&oldid=51217
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# [jgmac1106] !tell JeremyCherfas thanks for the comment on Ben's podcast. I walked in the door from work and he said, "I don't know who Jeremy is but I need to record another episode for him"
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