#indieweb 2018-11-20

2018-11-20 UTC
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[eddie] !tell [kimberlyhirsh],[Khurt] I saw you are both interested in IndieWebCamp Online! We are thinking about having it be the weekend of March 9-10. Are there any existing conflicts for you on that date?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[chrisaldrich] Thanks for the nudge [eddie], I'm good for all those nearby dates and listed it in the /Planning page
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[eddie] Awesome, great to hear, [chrisaldrich]! Thanks 😄
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: How's LA doing? Still excited about it
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[kimberlyhirsh] [eddie] I may be traveling, but don't let that change anything.
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[eddie] [kimberlyhirsh] sounds good. Thanks for the input. We’ll keep it in mind while finalizing things 🙂
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[jgmac1106] [kimberlyhirsh] what conference?
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gRegorLove This may be of interest to indieweb people. Proposal deadline is November 30th: http://bangbangcon.com/west/cfp/
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[kevinmarks] Tumblr purging accounts https://social.libre.fi/notice/1460985
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Loqi [Chris] This mess shows off a combination of the pitfalls of our current duopoly in mobile platforms and centralization. For those not in the loop, this afternoon Tumblr began a purge of NSFW accounts, including artists and sex workers. A considerable chunk...
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Salt[m] it's sad about tumblr, I just finished reading Custodians of the Internet and they had a section about the promises made to keep it open and the backlash that was felt when starting along this path to ban explicit content.
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb and Zegnat
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Loqi jeremycherfas: [jgmac1106] left you a message 11 hours, 9 minutes ago: thanks for the comment on Ben's podcast. I walked in the door from work and he said, "I don't know who Jeremy is but I need to record another episode for him"
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jeremycherfas Thanks jgmac1106 Please let me know when it is is; I haven't actually subscribed
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petermolnar https://social.libre.fi/notice/1463016 - if this is true, that's extremely concerning - Apple shouldn't govern content
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petermolnar although this might be -chat topic
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[jgmac1106] I should make a feed. He is six and with 5 shows in each season to cover all 21 stuffed animals I can't promise any regularity
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[jgmac1106] Good morning
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Loqi good morning!
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Loqi +1
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jeremycherfas I'd subscribe to a microcast feed.
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[jgmac1106] Do you make a tag in Known to make a subscription to each show?
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jeremycherfas No, I think it just follows the normal Known RSS rules.
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jgmac1106 let me try because he has two shows, one on dog breeds and one on stuffed animals
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[jgmac1106] this doesn't work: https://dogzone.jgregorymcverry.com/content/streamingmedia/tag/StuffedWorld?_t=rss
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[Rose] !tell eddie That weekend sounds fine right now!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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petermolnar [kevinmarks: re tumblr mess - how are people making a living off tumblr? I'm seriously asking it, from my point of view, tumblr is not offering any way of monetization at all
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[Rose] Also: RE Tumblr I've seen Apple removed the app as it was serving child pornography
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[Rose] seen/heard, brains and Tuesdays are a dodgy combo
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[jgmac1106] yes Apple pulled them, Tumblr freaked, got rid all of the erotica
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[jgmac1106] [petermolnar] buy selling dirty panties on reddit
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petermolnar but that's reddit then, not tumblr
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jeremycherfas Tumblr is the hoarding.
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[jgmac1106] the erotica communties quite connected, I am sure that is where everyone will go...there are still some legit bloggers
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[jgmac1106] making money on affiliates and a handful on CPM alone
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jeremycherfas [Rose] Are there add-ons for Automator that offer extra activities?
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[Rose] Yes, what kind of actions do you need?
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jeremycherfas I'll go to slack
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jgmac1106 @jeremycherfas every feed I try for Known just producces the entire RSS feed, how do you do this for your podcasts?
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[jgmac1106] http://dogzone.jgregorymcverry.com/tag/StuffedWorld?_t=rss
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jgmac1106 figured it out
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jeremycherfas OK, that is if they are tagged. Works fine. You can also do it for post kinds. http://dogzone.jgregorymcverry.com/content/audio/?_t=rss Which is all audio, not just stuffed world.
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jgmac1106 wonder how I do this to add to microcast.club? The following information was missing from your podcast feed: Podcast artwork. Please make sure your podcast name, website and artwork are all listed in your podcast RSS feed.
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jgmac1106 may have to manually tweek the xml file….or just make my own
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Zegnat Hmm, yeah, sounds like you need some special code
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[jgmac1106] ...that can wait...I will write him an XML file and build the feeds for now freinds and fam can cut and past the rss links
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petermolnar the reason why tumblr & similar are still a thing is because of their discover/recommendation engine
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petermolnar I'm still wondering how that could be replaced
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Zegnat petermolnar: without a central info store of whos interests overlap, very hard to give good recommendations
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Zegnat What are recommendations?
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Loqi A recommendation engine is software or a service that recommends things to people based on their behavior or people that have behaved like them in the past, like the features of sites that say things like people that bought this also bought that, or liked, or followed, etc https://indieweb.org/recommendations
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petermolnar I know; I keep wondering if we should build a hub, based on indiewebring, with some reasonable smart content detection (including image content evaluation) for recommendations
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petermolnar definitely not a 'free' crawler that just follows links
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petermolnar strictly within the domain of what indiewebring is linking to
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[kimberlyhirsh] [jgmac1106] Husband is presenting that week at The Collective and kid & I are accompanying him.
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jgmac1106 awesome!! if you wanna do one session with the kiddos hop in but totally understand if you wanna just hang family time
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sknebel good morning indieweb!
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kisik21 How are you dealing with posting things in several languages on your indieweb site?
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jeremycherfas Is this just another silo? https://wordpress.org/plugins/friends/
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Loqi [Alex Kirk] Description Decentralized Social Networking with WordPress Connect WordPresses through friendship requests Read each other’s (private) posts in a feed reader UI Subscribe to any RSS feed Compatible with the WordPress mobile apps On your WordPres...
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kisik21 I don't think it's a silo, since it seems to store data locally, judging by the description. But I doubt it supports open web standards such as h-cards.
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[jgmac1106] no the Wordpress reader experience is very open and much like the social reader vision
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jeremycherfas From me reading, you can only be friends with other people who have the same plugin on WP.
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[jgmac1106] ohh that is kinda siloish
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petermolnar kisik21: a long while ago I tried dealing with translations but I never actually had the time. My personal opinion is that it's perfectly fine to post translations as separate posts. As for language: I use python langdetect to detect the language of a certain post and indicate the language in the <html> tag on the post page, also on the <article> element on a feed page
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petermolnar re jeremycherfas someone found the disabled functionality of blogrolls of WP
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petermolnar oh, that's actually more sophisticated
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jeremycherfas Isn't ChrisAldrich also doing something clever with blogroll functionality.
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petermolnar it seems to be creating a new role for friends, so posts are actually copied over
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petermolnar this is quite an impressive solution for wp
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jeremycherfas I'll take your word for it.
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[jgmac1106] how BuddyBress like?
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[jgmac1106] BuddyPress?
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petermolnar no, this is really not buddypress
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[jgmac1106] which is such a resource hog
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petermolnar buddypress is a monster
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petermolnar ok, so from a very brief look, I seem to be right: when you sign up to follow someone, it creates a special user role, a friend, with a feed url, and it copies the feed posts over into your own WP
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petermolnar I haven't found the friend request part yet
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petermolnar it even has a reactions option!
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petermolnar it's unfortunate it's so wordpress-only
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petermolnar if this was built on micropub/microsub, that would be awesome
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petermolnar so for the request and many of the interactions it registers a REST endpoint
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jeremycherfas That was kind of my feeling; it would be amazing if open.
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petermolnar this should go into -wordpress
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jeremycherfas I agree. No idea how to do that though.
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[jgmac1106] the reader experience on wprdpress.com is already that good
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petermolnar not the same thing
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petermolnar this is for self hosted
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jgmac1106 I know not the same, just referring to the experience, it is a neat feature
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jgmac1106 jeremycherfas it looks like all the exclude a keyword or category from an rss feed are third party services so there must be some way to do it.
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jgmac1106 I wonder if the json feed would be easier to exclude a tag
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jeremycherfas Might not be such a difficult mod to Known's RSS. Let me take a look.
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jeremycherfas Looks like you could exclude a tag with an extra test in the loop at line 49 of `jsonfeed/shell.tpl.php`. I'm going to add that to my list of things to break.
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jeremycherfas And similarly (in a different place) for the template file in /rss
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kisik21 aaronpk: how to edit a note w/ Quill?
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jgmac1106 jeremycherfas try https://stuffedworld.dogzone.jgregorymcverry.com/stuffedworld.xml
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jgmac1106 though microcast club keeps picking up the first episode and the the show url so I can;t add it there, wonder if I messed up field file
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[jgmac1106] and itunes can't parse it either, will throw it on a gist and ask in dev
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swentel there are some validators online normally
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[jgmac1106] yeah i get this error but the link and category tags close: error on line 17 at column 49: Opening and ending tag mismatch: link line 0 and itunes:category
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swentel text="toys"/ - drop the forward slash
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[jgmac1106] Thx
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[kevinmarks] http://www.feedvalidator.org/check.cgi?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstuffedworld.dogzone.jgregorymcverry.com%2Fstuffedworld.xml
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[kevinmarks] Also feedburner.com still exists and is one way of wrangling your feeds so iTunes etc like rhem
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petermolnar [kevinmarks]: "Non-html tag: svg" in my feed. Interesting.
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[kevinmarks] old validator. depending on how you embed it you may need to put the xmlns at the top level
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aaronpk kisik21: I don't have editing support in quill yet
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jacky _soon_
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jacky <horse-starting-out-of-window-meme.JPG>
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[dave] G'day IndieWeb
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[dave] [kevinmarks] Is your rel=me verifier Chrome plugin open-source? I just added it and the icon looks odd on my dark theme, and I'd like to issue a PR with a transparent version if you'd be open to that.
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[dave] Never mind, found the GitHub link. 🙂
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[dave] And apparently I've already starred it before but have ADHD and don't recall doing so. 🙃
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[kevinmarks] Yes, I merged in Zegnat's local code.
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[kevinmarks] interesting https://ipfscloud.store
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/11/19/17/note/
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Added new nickname and micropub cache support" https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/11/20/9/article/
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swentel oooh
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swentel that sounds interesting
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swentel [eddie], you might want to change the background-color a bit of <code>
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swentel quite hard to read :)
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[eddie] So swentel or snarfed how does the create posts for mastodon work? Via your feed or do you send a webmention for each post?
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Loqi [eddie]: [Rose] left you a message 11 hours, 25 minutes ago: That weekend sounds fine right now!
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swentel [eddie], send a webmention
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swentel and https://fed.brid.gy link in your html
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swentel see https://fed.brid.gy/#use also
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[eddie] Ahh gotcha. Same as replies and likes then
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swentel yes
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[eddie] Yay! It worked!
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Loqi 😊
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