#indieweb 2018-11-21

2018-11-21 UTC
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GWG Evening all
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jacky evening
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GWG Hello, jacky
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jacky how's your evening going thus far?
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GWG Just got home a little while ago.
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GWG But, I'm trying to figure out how to approach a series of problems I need to fix.
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jacky what kind of problems?
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jacky working from home makes the whole commute thing so tedious now lol
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GWG Yes, I don't do that
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GWG jacky: With my website.
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GWG My goal is this.
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GWG I need to fix the process of posting a photo to my site using Indigenous for Android via Micropub then POSSEing to Twitter.
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GWG There are still a few bugs
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jacky hmmm that's something I'm eager to get to
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jacky I'm still at the point with just normalizing input from Indigenous on Android; it turns lists into maps on the server side
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jacky I think it's the mime type that's throwing off my server
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GWG Lists into maps? I don't get that
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[jgmac1106] @gwg you need to make sure u-featured or u-photo is included. [miklb] will know exact answer
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GWG [jgmac1106]: Actually, I got it working. It helped me solve with I think was a miklb problem also
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[jgmac1106] I have to manually add it to any photo for it to syndicate to Twitter with Bridgy Publish. Could be as simple as u-photo I think.
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I think I fixed a few things on my list.
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[jgmac1106] gwg++
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Loqi gwg has 29 karma in this channel over the last year (167 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106] I took credit for @swentel fixing a bug in Known...bout all I did today.. Trying to build a feed for Ben's podcast took most of my free time
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[jgmac1106] One thing Bridgy Publish had was perfect Twitter syndication.. Behaved natively
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I have fixes for that.
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GWG The podcast issue
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jacky GWG: like instead of [3, 5, 6], I'm getting {"0":3, "1":5, "2":6}
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jacky it's really weird
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GWG Interesting
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jacky yeah
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jacky def leaving it for thanksgiving eve hacking
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GWG That's a thing?
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gRegorLove HWC Tryptophan Edition
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jjuran Some folks can't wait for Advent of Code :-)
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viaken Oh shoot. That's soon, innit?
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jjuran Eleven days.
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gRegorLove what is indieweb challenge
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Loqi The IndieWeb Challenge is to collectively ship something IndieWeb-related every day of December! https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb_Challenge
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[cleverdevil] Made my wife a little "photos" index page thanks to some enhancements from Manton to feeds.
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[cleverdevil] http://cleverangel.org/pictures/
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[cleverdevil] Details -> https://github.com/cleverdevil/microgram
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Loqi [cleverdevil] microgram: Extension for Micro.blog hosted websites to add a photo index page.
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[kevinmarks] @jacky is that php?
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[kevinmarks] Because it's arrays are really maps it can be confusing making json - check the options on the json conversion, there is a flag to force a map or an array.
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[tantek] Wow Path about page is gone / unresponsive: https://path.com/about
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KartikPrabhu what is Path
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Loqi Path was a content hosting silo for private sharing of information among a small (limit 150) group of friends https://indieweb.org/Path
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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[tantek] Good almost midnight Zegnat
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Zegnat shakes head at time zones
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb and zegnat
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sknebel good morning!
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jeremycherfas Hello
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[jgmac1106] Good y
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[jgmac1106] Good morning
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Loqi greetings human
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[jgmac1106] !tell gwg the podcast plugin aaronpk recommended is fine.... Making a manual podcast page and feed not too bad.... Gonna write it up today
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG Oh?
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Loqi GWG: [jgmac1106] left you a message 4 minutes ago: the podcast plugin aaronpk recommended is fine.... Making a manual podcast page and feed not too bad.... Gonna write it up today
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GWG Which plugin?
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[jgmac1106] Hold on lemme log in and and check, works fine...they try to trick you to pay but free is great
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GWG I am still trying to make Post Kinds podcast friendly
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GWG I deliberately post An Indieweb podcast with it to self dogfood
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[jgmac1106] Seriously Simple Podcasting
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[jgmac1106] Yeah how did you make the feed for your show?
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GWG Out of curiosity, what are key podcast features?
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[jgmac1106] Depends on if you mean iTunes or everyone else
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GWG I upgraded Post Kinds to add enclosures for media urls and made it a taxonomy feed
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GWG I meant in general
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GWG The things you care about feature wise
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[jgmac1106] You need a show page, and a dedicated rss feed with additional features
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[jgmac1106] I am gonna write a post today about what I did, you should be able to look at it.
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GWG Maybe the podcast should have a GitHub repo to file issues
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[jgmac1106] What is Seriously Simple Podcasting?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Seriously Simple Podcasting" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Seriously Simple Podcasting is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[jgmac1106] Seriously Simple Podcasting is a WordPress plugin for creating a podcast feed. You can add a series and episodes to the series.
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Loqi ok
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GWG Maybe I should do the same
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GWG I broke the podcast feed slightly in the media enhancements to Post Kinds I demoed at IWC NYC
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[dave] G'day IndieWeb
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petermolnar does anyone know what the <link rel="me" href="ni:///sha-256;[hash]?ct=application/x-x509-user-cert" /> on adactio's site is?
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sknebel petermolnar: that was used by indiecert
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sknebel ni:// is from RFC6920
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jacky tell kevinmarks no, it wasn't PHP; it's in Elixir
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[tantek] Possibly a silo quit, or Instagram critique, or social media in general: (see image) https://www.instagram.com/p/BqOoq5IBGIs/
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Loqi [Alexis Novak] bye bye https://scontent-dfw5-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/b9088a1d7f90bc2abba22a9096d9ade4/5C6D3A54/t51.2885-15/e35/46161758_222747835310510_7570944250270421465_n.jpg
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[tantek] SMS << https://www.gimletmedia.com/reply-all/130-lizard#episode-player see transcript there and incorporate, as well as the Show Notes for more articles about SIMjacking etc
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.gimletmedia.com/reply-all/130-lizard#episode-player see transcript there and incorporate, as well as the Show Notes for more articles about SIMjacking etc" to the "See Also" section of /SMS https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=54144&oldid=54018
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jacky ah [tantek] while you're here
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jacky I remember you mentioning that gen(1...4) classifications of people wasn't useful
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jacky what kind of jargon are we meant to use in place of that?
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GWG jacky, speaking as someone who doesn't use the generation terms..
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GWG It depends on who you are talking to?
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jacky hmm
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GWG I know we discussed this in NY
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jacky I'm most likely bouncing between developers, designers with no coding background and end-users
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GWG I tend to divide between the developers, who are the people who want to build a platform, the diy types who want to customize an existing platform, and the people who want to just create content and let someone else have that burden
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[tantek] jacky, Aaronpk had a good summary critique of the gens 1-4 framing. Let me see if I can find it
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jacky developers, tinkerers and creators
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[jgmac1106] !tell grantcodes put you h-card project in the IndieWeb team on @Glitch
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106] People. I try to remember people are people first. My thinking was just version the software or use @manton's idea of goals
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[jgmac1106] The goal of the first generation of tools was to be used by x kind of users
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[jgmac1106] The goal of the fourth generation of tools is to create a frictionless reading and writing from your own solution for any user.
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GWG I never thought of myself as a developer
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jacky okay
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jacky maybe "crafters, tinkerers and creatives?"
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hoomanist hi ^_^
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hoomanist Simone here. I got rid of Facebook, I got rid of Google (migrated about 550 logins connected to Gmail...) and I run my two websites on my own using Ghost. Am I a good person?
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[tantek] No judgment either way :)
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[tantek] Sounds like impressive accomplishments though!
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hoomanist :D
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hoomanist I just decided that I had enough of most social media and I didn't want what I do to be on some wordpress.com/wix.com thing.
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hoomanist baby steps.
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[tantek] babysteps++
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Loqi babysteps has 1 karma over the last year
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hoomanist I think I'm on an irc-ish thing for the first time in 15 years or so. I found out about indieweb and I'm going through the documentation
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hoomanist Babysteps +Like👍🏻
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hoomanist I'm still not 100% sure how or if I could connect what I do to indieweb. If and when someone is not too busy, could I ask some suggestion for resources to check out about that, and if you can take a look at the small things that I do?
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hoomanist Or what/where is the proper channel to do that if I am in the wrong place?
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