#indieweb 2018-12-13

2018-12-13 UTC
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[eddie]
Depends. A person tag can be virtual, but most of mine are in person
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[jgmac1106]
is there xfn for checkin posts for with can you just <data class="p-category" value="with">h-card</
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[tantek]
no need. I think we decided that a person-tag on a check-in means the person is "in" the check-in IRL, just like a person-tag on a photo means the person is "in" the photo
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[jgmac1106]
I am submitting a letter of intent to apply for Mozilla's ethics in Computer Science challenge. Going to convert an unused planetarium into VR recording studio
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[jgmac1106]
Comps I students will have to write and complete case studies... What ethical situations would you include?
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[jgmac1106]
The timing of these friction and frictionless stories seems almost coordinated, sure it's the zeitgeist but it's everywhere
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kisik21
The syndication to Twitter works so smoothly that sometimes I don
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kisik21
don't even notice the magic
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kisik21
one of my replies was syndicated to Twitter so smoothly I haven't even noticed anything
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kisik21
bridgy is the best thing that ever existed
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[tantek]
bridgy++
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Loqi
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petermolnar
sounds like a .well-known is needed for person-tag /me ducks and yes, it's sarcasm
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kisik21
I think I need micropub IRC bot
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kisik21
that would post notes over Micropub via IRC
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kisik21
aaronpk: you use an IRC bot to deliver notifications, I think you know some stuff about IRC... Is my idea - an IRC->micropub bridge - sane enough?
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kisik21
also considering telegram->micropub bot by the way
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[jgmac1106]
Better than a well-actually [petermolnar_]
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[jgmac1106]
@kisik21 are you in the chatbot wki slack group? Botwiki.org
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Loqi
[aaronpk] TikTokBot: TikTokBot is a bot framework for Slack and IRC.
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[jgmac1106]
[sknebel] why would someone syndicate from IRC to Tim Tok? I love both but don't see use case.
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[jgmac1106]
Tik Tok? Stupid autocorrect
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[jgmac1106]
Nvm just common name
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Zegnat
TikTok (app) was first released September 2016, first commit to TikTokBot was June 2016. Obviously the latter has claims to the name ;)
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[jgmac1106]
Ha ha... Been loving TikTok... It's the new stupid things white people do Vine like app
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jeremycherfas
Good morning, again, IndieWeb
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Zegnat
Hi jeremycherfas :)
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Zegnat
[jgmac1106], I’ve only learned about TikTok last week
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jeremycherfas
After a week of intense work-for-hire I'm hoping to carve out some IndieWeb time this afternoon to look again at presenting geodata on my site.
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GWG
Ah, geodata. What are you presenting?
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jeremycherfas
Yup. See you later in #dev, most probably.
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jeremycherfas
I have routes, from trails.io and want to see whether I can add place markers tied to photos.
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jeremycherfas
I'm also interested in trying to see whether I can make use of aaronpk's Quartz.DB to store geo files.
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GWG
I just borrowed aaronpk's method of location lookup by airport code
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GWG
My site does reverse geocoding, I want to add geocoding
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jeremycherfas
I'm happier to decide where I am myself.
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GWG
Not sure what you mean
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GWG
Some people want to key in the name of the location, some will use the coordinates
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jgmac1106
check out how Known handles location, the reverse look up works well…with better than 3g connection
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jgmac1106
mihgt be able to steal inspirarion @gwg
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jeremycherfas
I'm less interested in checkins than in recording my perambulations, and I know where those are.
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jgmac1106
as a display option? Like show me all my posts on my trip to Prague?
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jeremycherfas
That could come later. But I'm really not all that interested in where a ost was made, and if a post is about a place, that's enough. If I write about Prague, that's what is salient, not where I wrote it. For me.
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GWG
jgmac1106, my reverse lookup works fine,. though I am tweaking the return format
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GWG
jeremycherfas, I like showing maps
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jeremycherfas
I'm by no means against it.
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GWG
Right now, my location offering is fragmented a bit because I added things on over time. I was going to clean it up a bit.
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[jgmac1106]
<data class="p-category" value ="50.0755° N, 14.4378° E">Prague</data>??
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GWG
Especially the pieces I borrowed from aaronpk. Like the timezone calculation code. I need to make it fit in more nearly
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GWG
To prepare for the next thing
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[jgmac1106]
Trip pagination is an interesting idea... Not that I could do it but I love that Google Photos does it for me automatically
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GWG
jgmac1106, I do it with a tag
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[jgmac1106]
Yeah that would work. Simple best
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GWG
Hmm...idea. Auto tag
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[jgmac1106]
If geodata different than house... Auto tag until you return. That becomes trip series
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GWG
The issue is the variance in geodata
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[jgmac1106]
The start and stop of a trip would be geofenced... I lose geodata reliability when I dip below 4g
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GWG
jgmac1106, I would want to identify it better
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GWG
For example, in Berlin the response said I was in Mitte, East Berlin, etc
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GWG
How to unify that
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[jgmac1106]
Yeah I am talking about a trip series not just location data. Any post between Time A wehn I depart place X to Time B when I return the place X
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GWG
Exactly. I have to think about how that might work
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[jgmac1106]
My only issue is seeing how much location data gets sucked up and sold by other apps. Would have to keep my phone pretty whitelisted
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[jgmac1106]
Like empty of apps and accept Google gets it all... Or switch to G Suite for good location security
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GWG
jgmac1106, how would you feel if it were you hoovering it up?
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GWG
You could run aaronpk's Compass or similar
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[jgmac1106]
Better. But having location services is on is all it really takes
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[jgmac1106]
It's not me having it. That is easy to solve. Google knows when I blow my nose.... It's everyone else having it if you leave location services on
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GWG
Understood
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[jgmac1106]
Wondering what he can do with his old hiking GPS toys......
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GWG
But for now, I will worry about me
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[jgmac1106]
Your Google history has it all. You could Pesos photos... manually from Google Maps.
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kisik21
good morning IndieWeb
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kisik21
was my blog down recently? I think I had an electricity outage
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Loqi
good morning!
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kisik21
just returned from college and found my PC offline
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jgmac1106
ooh no, good luck
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jgmac1106
I have the worse internet when we have weather where I live
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jgmac1106
[gwg] a single paid g-suite account on Android with no other apps but google apps would be a pretty location secure phone.
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GWG
jgmac1106, I already have the data from Google
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jgmac1106
or then whitelisted IndieWeb and other trusted apps from there
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jgmac1106
I know, I am just thinking outloud of getting data in Google in the most secure no one else gets it way
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jgmac1106
mean out of Google
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GWG
I just downloaded it from Takeout
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jgmac1106
I understand, I am talking about this: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/12/10/business/location-data-privacy-apps.html?module=inline, I mean doing Takeout without offering up the Buffet
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jgmac1106
Google’s G Suite provides strong privacy protection. If they offered a family I would buy it tomorrow, you think permissions are easy on the big apps….try kids apps….it’s predatory design
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jgmac1106
This is why the FourSquare and Swarm round made so much sense. You could rename those apps, ‘Tracking Priviledge” that data worth a ton of money
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jgmac1106
….but I have old GPS devices….can I somehow get data off of those, on to the phone, and on to website…..way inaccurate though…mine are old
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "Blog Engines and Indieweb Controlling Upstream" https://ramblinggit.com/2018/12/blog-engines-and-indieweb-controlling-upstream/
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jgmac1106
[schmarty] this is why IndieWeb rings need webmention badges: https://twitter.com/jgmac1106/status/1073204747224711169
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@jgmac1106
I love love using h-feed. Don't get me wrong RSS is awesome... For consuming.. No fun when writing. Now with h-feed I stick a few classes and HTML and done. It's in your reader. RSS I have to redo the post in an xml feed or teach myself some automation… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/12/13/i-love-love-using-h-feed-dont-get
(twtr.io/1mVa2HtWgzV)
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Loqi
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[jgmac1106]
for being so generous with my class; I love seeing your webmentions hit our comment feed: http://edu106class.networkedlearningcollaborative.com/feeds.html
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[jgmac1106]
[tantek] did you originally post the Mozilla Responsibility in CS Challenge here: https://jgmac1106homepage.glitch.me/mozillaethicschallenge.html I can't remember if you invited people to apply
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chrisaldrich
good morning indieweb
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chrisaldrich
Facebook has cut down on their API access breaking brid.gy backfeeding, but it still does notifications via email. I'm curious if anyone had thought of building something that does webmention via email.
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chrisaldrich
Then one could create a switchboard to take incoming email and create backfeed.
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chrisaldrich
An awfully circuitous route, but it might work. Something similar to GWG's Postmatic email tool and this comment via Jon Udell: https://blog.jonudell.net/2018/12/02/wheres-my-net-dashboard/#comment-495949
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Loqi
Jon Udell
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GWG
chrisaldrich, Postmatic charges a lot. I'm grandfathered in as I was a beta user
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GWG
I was thinking of reproducing the functionality using the mailgun api
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