#indieweb 2018-12-15

2018-12-15 UTC
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kisik21
!tell snarfed bridgy fed processes follow-of. I need something that can publish that post via Micropub. I wanna write my own client for this...
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Zegnat
Good morning IndieWeb
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sknebel
good morning!
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jeremycherfas
Good morning zegnat and sknebel
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Zegnat
Anyone working on anything IndieWeb today?
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jeremycherfas
If I finish this bit of paid work. I spent a couple of hours yesterday playing with my geodata, and managed to bind a popup to a map marker. Today I would like to see whether I can improve the presentation of the marker and, more important, the contents of the popup.
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jeremycherfas
But javascript is hard. All that nesting.
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Zegnat
It can certainly be.
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Zegnat
Not without knowing what you are working with. But it sometimes helps to break stuff out rather than writing it all nested.
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Zegnat
Lets take that to #indieweb-dev :D
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[jgmac1106]
I use lot of JavaScript modals on our university website
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[tantek]
Zegnat, I am once again struggling with what to post when and why (on my indieweb site of course)
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[tantek]
not sure it's really "working on". more like "reflecting on"
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Zegnat
[tantek], I know that feeling! Something I have been thinking about a lot while rebuilding my micropub app :)
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Zegnat
“In what situations will I open this app?” “When do I want to post?”
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[tantek]
questioning a lot of underlying motivations for posting, interacting with posts publicly, etc.
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[tantek]
questioning incentives, what incentives are we amplifying, propagating. what incentives should / can we design for?
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[jgmac1106]
then write now, worry about categorizing when you are done, the content will tell you
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[tantek]
brainstorm while away: a few good reasons to promptly post about positive things - looking for feedback (before I post / wiki these as brainstorms)
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[tantek]
1. positive self-affirmation to reinforce positive behaviors/habits more strongly after having finished something;
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[tantek]
2. timely relevance leverages recency bias;
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[tantek]
3. sooner domino/compounding effect - the sooner you post something positive, the sooner others may see and be inspired by your example to do positive things, and inspire others etc.;
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[tantek]
4. get ahead of future negative press/circumstances - get your positive post published and out there before something bad happens in the future that you'll either have to deal with instead, or will make provide a bad/poor temporal context for your otherwise positive post.
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[tantek]
(that's it for now)
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[tantek]
accordingly, considering splitting "why post" into a separate article from the bits in https://indieweb.org/post#Why and https://indieweb.org/post#Thoughts_on_why_post (more of a meta topic, stated here for context of the above)
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[jgmac1106]
maybe do a challenge "Why I Post" and then add that collection to the page
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[jgmac1106]
instead of telling people why to post let's ask people why they post
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[tantek]
[jgmac1106] hence the split between the "why" section and "thoughts on ..." section
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[tantek]
we could curate a more authoritative "why to post" based on emergent patterns among multiple people who say why they post
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[tantek]
[jgmac1106] any thoughts on my 1-4 above? any resonate for you and/or seem problematic in any way?
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jgmac1106
those are good.. I would make brainstorm its own reason…but I don’t know if this is just a section “Posting Positive News”
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