#indieweb 2019-01-03

2019-01-03 UTC
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[adamprocter] @todrobbins thank you, very kind, we have a discord team for internal chat around the project if you wish to join then feel free to DM.
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[adamprocter] *also have a discord
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snarfed so interesting q: for people who posse their posts to silos and publish synd links, and then later silo quit and delete those silo posts...what should they do about their synd links?
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Loqi snarfed: [davidmead] left you a message 10 hours, 56 minutes ago: Why does Brid.gy need a different URLs to be in the Instagram profile since I moved to Known? OwnYourGram is ok with the root domain, but Brid.gy wants the profile page?
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snarfed (^ i think like they later figured this out)
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snarfed on a site like mine, where the synd links are displayed as just silo icons, i'm leaning toward changing them from links to unlinked icons with hover text like "this [silo] post has been deleted," or maybe the silo post permalink itself. but no longer actual clickable links.
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jacky that sounds helpful for archival purposes
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jacky re: showing a unusable link
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jacky since silos don't really use 410
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snarfed and end users mostly don't understand 410 either :P
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[kevinmarks] Redirect to archive.org links?
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[davidmead] [snarfed] all working now 🙂
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snarfed [kevinmarks]: afaik archive.org generally doesn't have major silos, right? fb, ig, etc
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Bridgy stats update" https://snarfed.org/2019-01-02_bridgy-stats-update-4
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[tantek] snarfed++
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Loqi snarfed has 36 karma in this channel over the last year (115 in all channels)
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Zegnat Oddly ontopic? https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fixing-social-media
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[scottgruber] Hi, Happy new year everyone. Wish you all a healthy and happy 2019.
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[scottgruber] I was looking to see when 2019 indieweb camps are scheduled to mark my calendar and ran across a warning when visiti g https://www.indieweb.org (it doesn’t show up when I went to https://indieweb.org).
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[scottgruber] Here’s a screenshot. Is there anything I could do to help?
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[scottgruber] And the certificate info.
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jacky hmm that's interesting
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jacky I think either [tantek] or aaronpk might know
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snarfed [scottgruber]: where was https://www.indieweb.org linked from?
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[scottgruber] Wasn’t linked I just entered it in my browser (safari on ios)
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[scottgruber] hey, good new. now I can’t replicate it so maybe it was a ghost in my machine? it refreshes ok now to https://indieweb.org
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jacky nah if I type in https://www.indieweb.org it happens to me too now
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jacky https://i.imgur.com/IStUgLD.png
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[scottgruber] I tested it on my laptop in chrome and safari. after I go to https://indieweb.org and then add the www in the location bar I get the warning. So looks like I can replicate it too. 🤔
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[scottgruber] sometimes i get the lets encypt cert and sometimes the older startcomm cert.
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[scottgruber] [aaronpk] Could an old cert still be on the server?
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snarfed may be intentional, or at least expected, especially if there aren't many or any links to https://www
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snarfed http://www correctly redirects to naked domain, https://indieweb.org
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snarfed https://github.com/dshanske/syndication-links/issues/97
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[kevinmarks] [snarfed] archive.org has a lot of twitter,less of fb and Instagram
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[metbril] Could anyone explain why the `p-note` for the h-card in my homepage https://robertvanbregt.nl does not show up in https://indiewebify.me/validate-h-card/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frobertvanbregt.nl
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[metbril] Source says
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[metbril] ```
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[metbril] <div class="about-me h-card">
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[metbril] ...
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[metbril] <p class="p-note"><p>???<br />
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[metbril] <br />
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[metbril] Hallo, ik ben Robert van Bregt. Overdag Projectmanager in de Zorg-ICT. En in mijn vrije tijd liefhebber van Internet, technologie en gadgets.</p></p>
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[metbril] </div>
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[metbril] ...
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[metbril] ```
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swentel maybe the parser doesn't like the nest paragraph
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swentel there are two opening and closing p-tags
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swentel don't think that's valid html (from a spec perspective)
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[metbril] swentel++
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Loqi swentel has 10 karma in this channel over the last year (38 in all channels)
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[metbril] That did the trick. Now all I need to do is submit a PR to the grav-plugin-aboutme repo to replace the outer `<p>` with a `div` or `span`. Which would be preferred? Span, I guess?
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[pfefferle] If it is the outer p, it can only replaced with div... span is an inline element and p is a Block element and you can’t use block elements inside inline elements... if you want to replace the inner p, you can use span...
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[metbril] Then it is the div, I think. The plugin wraps the p element around a markdownified note.
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[kevinmarks] you can't nest <p> is the issue; <p>a<p>b</p>c</p> becomes <p>a</p><p>b</p>c<p></p>
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[kevinmarks] It's valid HTML, but it doesn't do what you naively expect from xml
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[metbril] Kevin I figured this out. Need to change a Grav plugin for that.
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[xavierroy] https://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2018/11/possibly-out-there-federation-idea/
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[tantek] What is a monthly recap?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "monthly recap" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "monthly recap is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] Does anyone have a monthly recap feature on their site or want one? I just got one from Swarm and I kind of want one for all my posts
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[cleverdevil] I sort of have one.
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[cleverdevil] Mostly a function of my archive, though.
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[cleverdevil] https://cleverdevil.io/archive/2018/12
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[cleverdevil] (For example)
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[tantek] Hah! That’s a monthly archive. Not really a “recap” ;)
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[cleverdevil] I already have a scheduled Lambda that injects my On This Day page into my Microsub server on a daily basis. It would be trivial to do the same on a monthly basis 😉
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[cleverdevil] Describe a recap?
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[tantek] Literally a summary of sorts. Closer to year in review but for a month
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[cleverdevil] Gotcha. So, it'd likely need to be manually generated.
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[cleverdevil] Rather than automated.
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[cleverdevil] I guess it could be generated as just a single post with links off to posts that happened during the month, maybe with some interesting stats and categorization.
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[cleverdevil] "Checked in to 48 locations in August"
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[cleverdevil] Etc.
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[tantek] Swarm's are automated, that's my point
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[tantek] I took screenshots, I guess there's enough interest to create a page
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[cleverdevil] Sounds like a fun feature.
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[cleverdevil] I'd be interested in developing one for my site 🙂
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[cleverdevil] (Might do it as a function of the archive, though, where I can generate summaries for days, months, and years)
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[tantek] see also /on_this_day#Brainstorming for more ideas
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[tantek] [cleverdevil] here's a start: https://indieweb.org/monthly_recap
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[tantek] perhaps add your interest to a Brainstorming section there?
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[cleverdevil] OK
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[tantek] wonders if he should post a note whenever he creates a new non-trivial indieweb wiki page inviting folks to contribute their experiences / interests
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[eddie] Ohhh monthly recaps sound fun!
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[cleverdevil] Suuuuuper early: https://cleverdevil.io/summary/2018/11
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[cleverdevil] I think I'll tinker on this, inline all the photos, and maybe links to all of the "posts"
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[cleverdevil] But only summarize the rest.
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[cleverdevil] It may be cool to show a map with all of the locations on it too.
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[tantek] cleverdevil++ wow that was fast!!!
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Loqi cleverdevil has 34 karma in this channel over the last year (78 in all channels)
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[eddie] Nice!
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[eddie] [cleverdevil]++
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Loqi [cleverdevil] has 35 karma in this channel over the last year (79 in all channels)
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[cleverdevil] 😉
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[cleverdevil] Its a start!
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[cleverdevil] I really like the idea, though, and will likely try and spend some time on it this month.
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[tantek] [cleverdevil] so if I come up with / document a new indieweb feature every day for 100 days, would you implement it? >:)
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[cleverdevil] Heh
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[cleverdevil] Wish I had infinite time!
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[cleverdevil] 😉
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aaronpk www probably has the really old cert that we aren't using anymore. i'll fix it.
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aaronpk www shouldn't be linked from anywhere though so not critical
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snarfed ^ yup that. consider just dropping the cert altogether
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aaronpk i can't stop people from typing in https with www tho
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aaronpk so if i don't put a cert there it'll pick a random one from the rest of them
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snarfed oh, that seems like the bug then
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snarfed anyway, i'll back away slowly. #hugops etc
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[smerrill] [aaronpk] Aperture seems to still not be refreshing feeds. If you’re aware, groovy. If not, you are now! 🙂
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GWG Now that Google+ is going away, I have this sudden weird idea of making my site look like it for a while.
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GWG Why not have themes I can rotate through when I'm bored?
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jacky GWG: that's a good idea (and something I'd want personally)
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jacky even seasonal ones lol
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snarfed sounds like wordpress themes :P
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aaronpk oh yeah, i need to figure that out
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GWG snarfed: Exactly
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GWG But I only have one that works for my site
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jacky snarfed: lol
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aaronpk welp, the queue crashed a while ago, so no feeds in aperture were updating. sorry bout that.
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aaronpk back up and running now
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aaronpk i didn't notice because some of the stuff i follow is pushed into aperture, and also i haven't been online much in the last couple weeks as well
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[smerrill] thanks [aaronpk]!
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[cleverdevil] [aaronpk]++ for hosted aperture 🙂
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jacky relative URIs in h-card are going to be the end of me :(
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mlncn yeah it's weird how all the examples i've seen are relative. It doesn't *have* to be, of course, ... right?
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jacky IMO nah; but it can help if you change domains (in the future?) so it's less re-writing
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jacky also depends on how the HTML's being served (is it from disk? is it hand written vs generated?)
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mlncn yeah as long as it's root-relative that's solid enough and helps when switching domains
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "2018: a year in gratitude" https://matienzo.org/2019/year-in-gratitude/
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