#indieweb 2019-01-05

2019-01-05 UTC
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[davidmead]
!tell tantek parts 2 and 3 of my trials now up on the blog
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek]
ouch, sorry to read that last line 😞 "SQL file to big to import through web"
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[davidmead]
[aaronpk] is it possible to use an Aperture URL in my Chrome RSS extension to add feeds straight into it? I could add http://www.bloglines.com/login?r=/sub/%s into the extension and add feeds with one click.
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aaronpk
I don't know what bloglines is but that sounds like a neat idea
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GWG
Bloglines was my first RSS reader
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[davidmead]
ditto GWG
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[davidmead]
I don’t think Bloglines is still around as an RSS reader, like Feedreader. The extension let you append %s to the sub URL for the feed reading site and it’d add it to your list
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aaronpk
Sounds like how I use bookmarklets to reply to things in quill?
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[Rose]
Darn, IWC Düsseldorf clashes with another event... Which I don't yet have a ticket for so IWC wins :D
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andreipmbcn
Hi. I am developing an app/plugin for posting questions with preset answers (such as "strongly disagree", "don't know" and "agree") and was wondering if any other apps that did this were available, as well as whether there are any web standards like activityPub that could make this app decentralized.
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andreipmbcn
activityPub seems useful for any sort of peer-to-peer app but apparently lacks the ability to tag posts with response options and response counts, which this app would need.
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[Rose]
Is this a sort of polling software?
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andreipmbcn
Yes and no; for various reasons such as to make responding faster, users specify a format for the answers to their question/statement, such as "❌❌ / ❌ / ✔️ / ✔️✔️". All answers are emojis.
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andreipmbcn
This is mainly for mobile users and as an add-on for websites, where space is crucial.
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andreipmbcn
The point is for users to give answers that are stronger or weaker versions of yes and no, or 1st choice vs 2nd choice, meaning that they already know what the available answers are when the question is sent to them, and these answers occupy two characters in length each as opposed to the 100+ characters you would expect in a regular poll. This will probably give much greater response rates than a regular poll, since people
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andreipmbcn
don't have to consider individual answers but only how strongly they would agree or disagree with the asker.
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andreipmbcn
So if regular polling apps are Facebook, this would be Twitter. Does anyone here know if there are already apps like this or apps that would welcome this functionality, and whether there are peer-to-peer web standards that could be used in building it?
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[kevinmarks]
Webmention would work, though that would need them to post replies on their own sites or something that can be federated via bridgy (like twitter)
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[kevinmarks]
What is reacji?
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Loqi
reacji is an emoji reaction, the use of a single emoji character in response to a post, introduced as a feature by Slack[1] https://indieweb.org/reacji
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[kevinmarks]
Some discussion of that there
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[kevinmarks]
Older efforts at this were vote links, but that needed a little more structure.
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[kevinmarks]
Slack now has polls, but reacji are informally used for this there too
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[kevinmarks]
What are vote links?
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andreipmbcn
Thanks for the replies, kevinmarks. I'll look into these.
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[Rose]
Hotel booked for IWC Düsseldorf (free cancellation), and flights researched!
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sknebel
oh, was a date announced yet? or just to be sure for the assumed one?
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[Rose]
The assumed one "save the date" is 11-12th May. So I just booked it.
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[Rose]
If it changes I'll go to Brussels instead that weekend and Düsseldorf whenever IWC is. I hope to attend Berlin, and go to Nürnberg again this year too!
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vasilakisfil
in case you know something
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Zegnat
I might try for Nürnberg again this year, really enjoyed my time there. Maybe see if I can make it a Bayern trip, as I haven’t spent much time in that area
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[cleverdevil]
!tell aaronpk hmm, looks like OYS isn’t automatically posting for me right now. If I manually send the check in it posts though.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[voss]
I couldn't find any posts on how to liberate your Instagram feed, so I posted a thing on how to use granary.io to consume your Instagram feed in a different way. https://blog.voss.co/2019/consuming-instagram-differently
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[voss]
I might add some screenshots later on.
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[cleverdevil]
Nice post, [voss].
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[cleverdevil]
I replied to your post on my site, but the webmention isn’t showing up on yours. Strange.
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[davidmead]
i was having the same issue with OYS yesterday [cleverdevil]. now manual posting not working for me either
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[davidmead]
same with OYG too
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[voss]
What is OYS?
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Loqi
OwnYourSwarm is a service which sends your Swarm checkins to your own website via Micropub https://indieweb.org/OYS
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[voss]
Ah, haha, I'm a bit slow (:
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aaronpk
ah crap ownyourswarm didn't restart when i fixed the server the other day
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Loqi
aaronpk: [cleverdevil] left you a message 2 hours, 50 minutes ago: hmm, looks like OYS isn’t automatically posting for me right now. If I manually send the check in it posts though.
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aaronpk
it's catching up now
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[cleverdevil]
Cool thanks @aaronpk 😀
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[schmarty]
aaronpk++ thanks for restarting ownyourswarm!
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Loqi
aaronpk has 41 karma in this channel over the last year (269 in all channels)
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[schmarty]
i think i am now pretty happy with this webring directory. so, it's public now.
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Zegnat
“Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at xn--iy8h.ws.” hmmm
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aaronpk
oh weird the slack bridge mangled the emoji URL
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Zegnat
Oh, I see now, should be https://🕸💍.ws/directory
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[schmarty]
i shouldn't play so cavalier with unicode URLs
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[cleverdevil]
I’m having the itch to improve how I track what shows and movies I watch.
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[cleverdevil]
Currently, I have a decent solution to track everything I watch on my Plex, but I don’t exclusively watch content on Plex.
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[cleverdevil]
I’d love to see something like OYG or OYS for Trakt.
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[cleverdevil]
Is this something that anyone else is working on or is aware of?
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[cleverdevil]
Also, for some reason I don’t show up in the directory [schmarty]
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Zegnat
I have a long standing itch to track my YouTube viewing, but none of the extensions really seemed to work the way I expected them to. So still no automated tracking for me
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[schmarty]
[cleverdevil] you may want to log in and check your dashboard. could be it can't find your links, or can't find your representative h-card.
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aaronpk
[cleverdevil]: i've been using trakt and i also want ownyourtrakt
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Zegnat
What is Trakt?
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Loqi
trakt.tv is a silo service to automatically track what you're watching https://indieweb.org/trakt
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[cleverdevil]
[aaronpk] awesome. The API is pretty decent, but it doesn’t seem to have any sort of webhook or notification for watch history. You just have to poll.
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Zegnat
That looks like grantcodes has a system for getting micropub watch posts from it already?
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Zegnat
Aptly named “trakt-to-micropub”
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[cleverdevil]
I'd have to find a way to make my website interpret the posts and create the right type of content on my website.
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[cleverdevil]
But, this looks promising.
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[grantcodes]
That's a pretty basic script but it works
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[cleverdevil]
Do you have it running as a service anywhere?
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GWG
I just got a really delayed checkin
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[schmarty]
GWG: see above. ownyourswarm was not updating, aaronpk kicked it, it's back online.
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GWG
Okay
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[schmarty]
(and catching up on older posts)
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[davidmead]
[schmarty] how does one join this “web ring” you speak of? 😉
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[grantcodes]
[cleverdevil] no, I made it as a one user thing
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[schmarty]
davidmead: step one, sign in using your domain (IndieAuth-style). step two, put the provided links (to the next and previous sites in the ring) on your homepage. step three: that's pretty much it! maybe click the button to pull in your profile from your h-card if you want to be listed on the directory page.
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[schmarty]
nice! welcome!
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[cleverdevil]
[grantcodes] your script works great, but I just DDoS'd my site ;D
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[cleverdevil]
I need to go delete a bunch of posts now!
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[cleverdevil]
Now I need to make it a little smarter for my use case.
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[grantcodes]
Yeah it does look through your history
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[grantcodes]
Now that's run once though it should only add new ones
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[grantcodes]
I have a cron job that runs it every day or so
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[cleverdevil]
So, Known for some reason thinks the posts are photos.
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[cleverdevil]
Maybe I'll just use your code as a starting point and then instead of sending over a micropub request, I'll just call this same webhook.
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[grantcodes]
Probably because it doesn't have watch-of in it's post type discovery
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[cleverdevil]
Yeah, "watch" isn't a core plugin. I created it.
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[cleverdevil]
And I've never been totally clear on how to extend the Micropub endpoint in Known.
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[cleverdevil]
So, Trakt pro has RSS feeds of watch lists.
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[cleverdevil]
That would be a *much* easier way to deal with things.
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[cleverdevil]
An OwnYourTrakt could use that.
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[grantcodes]
Yeah but then every user would need a pro account no?
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[grantcodes]
I personally don't see an issue with polling on trakt as it has the original watch date on it anyway
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[cleverdevil]
I am gonna go with the pro account route since its so much easier for me to deal with.
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[cleverdevil]
I wanted a pro account anyway 😉
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[grantcodes]
Oh yeah fair enough for yourself, wouldn't be great for a public service was my thought
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[Rose]
I use Trakt too, need to figure out how to get the RSS feeds onto my site, but I'll get there
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[Rose]
OwnYourTrakt would be appreciated though!
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[cleverdevil]
I'll post what I end up with, but its going to be pretty bespoke for me.
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[eddie]
Lol I manually ran a command line script that added in my historical Trakt shows into my website
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[eddie]
That was a pain
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[eddie]
But my data wasn’t super accurate the way I was using it, so I had to ferret out the bad data