#indieweb 2019-01-16

2019-01-16 UTC
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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[tantek] Good night Zegnat 🙂
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Loqi night
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sknebel good morning!
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[jgmac1106] Good morning
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Loqi greetings human
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jeremycherfas Good morning, good night, it's all good IndieWeb
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aaronpk [Vincent] Instagram stories and my own stories are just a series of images and videos, but there is no explicit relationship between them. They have an order and they stop showing up 24h after they are posted. They also auto play in sequence.
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aaronpk So basically I just need a way to have ownyourgram send the photo and video file from Instagram to my website
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[kevinmarks] then we need to pitch it to AOC to solver her congressional records act problem https://medium.com/s/story/the-government-has-an-instagram-problem-8a087e8a58ab
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1085337947354918912
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/danielschuman/status/1085362249332674560
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[voss] I logged into alltogethernow.io using my Known site. Immediately after I login, I get a toast alert saying "Error getting channels". I also don't seem to be able to add any channel, I get an "Error creating channel". Has anyone had that experience as well?
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[grantcodes] [voss] what microsub server are you using?
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[voss] [grantcodes] I'm using Aperture, and Monocle to consume currently.
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[voss] So Aperture would be my microsub server, is that correct?
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[grantcodes] Yep
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[grantcodes] Together should work fine with aperture
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[grantcodes] You're not self hosting?
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[voss] Self-hosting microsub? Haven't gotten around to it, but it's on my list of things to look into at the next HWC London 🙂
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[grantcodes] Hmm well that's odd that it doesn't work then, I have the same setup and it works
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[Rose] Did you log into aperture and make sure everything's hooked up correctly?
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[voss] [Rose] Does Aperture need a specific channel for Together? I'm pretty sure I'm doing something wrong, but I can't figure out what 🙂
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[Vincent] [aaronpk] gotcha, thanks. Much clearer 🙂
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[grantcodes] [voss] the logs are saying your token was issued to a different user
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[grantcodes] You don't have another multi user known site do you?
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[voss] [grantcodes] this might be the issue. Known used to be set to a multiuser site, and just last week I realised it was the reason why I couldn't login to a number of the services people build. I've changed that now, so it's a single-user site.
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[voss] [grantcodes] I don't have another multi-user Known site. But I might have tried to login to Together with my Known site, when it was in the multi-user setting. That would have given me an error though.
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[grantcodes] Ok so the only other thing I'm noticing is a difference between voss.co and voss.co/profile
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[grantcodes] It might be that my auth step doesn't fully follow redirects properly or something
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sknebel log into aperture and see what account id it tells you - if your auth url has changed, you got a new account
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[voss] From Aperture: "Logged in as https://blog.voss.co/profile/voss"
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sknebel it should also give you a microsub url to use - is it https://aperture.p3k.io/microsub/147 ?
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[voss] sknebel: Yes, that's the one
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sknebel ok, then that is correctly set up :)
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[grantcodes] This is the error I'm seeing
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[grantcodes] {"error":"invalid_user","error_description":"This token was issued to a different user","debug":{"expected":"https:\/\/blog.voss.co\/profile\/voss","from_token":"https:\/\/blog.voss.co\/"}}
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[voss] sknebel: thanks for verifying 🙂
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[voss] [grantcodes] hmm, weird.
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sknebel [grantcodes]: what tells you that?
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[grantcodes] Maybe if you log into together with /profile on the end?
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[voss] I'll give it a shot [grantcodes]
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[grantcodes] My debugging, but not sure from where
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[voss] [grantcodes] if I try to login to Together with https://blog.voss.co/profile - I get "Error getting auth url"
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[grantcodes] Huh that's because that page doesn't exist, I guess it is left over from multiuser known?
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[voss] That's very likely. https://blog.voss.co/profile/voss works, but that gives me an error if I try to login with that one.
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[grantcodes] 🤔 very strange
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[voss] I'm removing the tokens from Together, from my list of "IndiePub Accounts" in Known. Don't know if that changes anything, but it's worth a shot.
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[voss] Might be old tokens from when it was a multi-user site?
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[grantcodes] Have you tried logging into monocle too?
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[voss] Monocle works.
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[voss] with https://blog.voss.co/
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[voss] Ok, cleared the tokens from Known, logging in with blog.voss.co gives the same error as I initially reported.
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sknebel if Monocle works, sounds like together is failing to follow something somewhere
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[grantcodes] Yeah that is not out of the question to be honest
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[voss] If I try with the other blog.voss.co/profile/voss, I get "cannot read property 'status' of undefined".
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[grantcodes] Yes, I'm assuming my auth doesn't follow a redirect somewhere... I'll need to properly debug it when I can
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[voss] Oh, correction. Monoclo is also failing. I was reloading an old tab with Monocle logged in, and it just works. I tried in an incognito window, and Monocle fails as well 🙂
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[voss] Hmm, seems like I broke my logins when I changed to single-user Known site.
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[grantcodes] Ok well that's almost better 😂
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[grantcodes] Maybe refresh your account in aperture? I'm not sure how that works
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[voss] I agree 🙂
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[voss] I'll be back in 30mins and will look at this again.
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[grantcodes] 👍
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[voss] [grantcodes] right, trying to login to Monocle, as I mentioned, now gives the same error that you mentioned. Must see how I get a new account with Monocle, with my single-user Known site.
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[voss] ``"error_description": "This token was issued to a different user"``
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[cleverdevil] So, I am able to login to Together/Aperture with my Known site.
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[cleverdevil] I am pretty sure that you'll need to either have [aaronpk] change your account in Aperture or provision a new account.
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[voss] [cleverdevil] cool. Definitely an issue on my end, because I previously logged in with my Known site, when it wasn't in single-user mode.
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[voss] [cleverdevil] sounds like it.
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[cleverdevil] The multi-user / single-user issue annoyed me too, and I actually pushed changes to Known a while back to smooth this out a bit.
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[cleverdevil] I didn't like how my site was issuing my identity as my profile URL rather than just the domain.
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[voss] Yeh, that was also rubbing me the wrong way
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[voss] Aha! Logged out of Aperture, and logged in again with my regular URL, and I was provisioned a new account.
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[voss] Now I just need to transfer my channels
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[voss] Somehow 🙂
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[cleverdevil] 😉
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[cleverdevil] https://github.com/idno/known/commit/2a9bd4d5745e639273463612f1bf05615bc8e737 <- looks like I had the same issue a while ago, which is why I pushed the change 😉
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[voss] Nice!
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[grantcodes] [voss] you should probably ask aaronpk to delete that new account you just made and change the URL on your old one
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[voss] [grantcodes] that's an option I guess. It won't take me too long to copy over though, hadn't gone too crazy with sources... yet.
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[voss] I can just ask Aaron nicely to delete the old one, once I'm done transferring.
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[voss] thanks [grantcodes] and [cleverdevil] for troubleshooting 🙂
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[voss] grantcodes++ cleverdevil++
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[voss] !tell aaronpk you may delete the aperture account on https://aperture.p3k.io/microsub/147. I created it with my Known site in multi-user setting, and recently switched to single-user, which b0rked it. I've made a new aperture account instead.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed nice UX touch on the backfed comments on https://mxstbr.com/thoughts/tech-choice-regrets-at-spectrum/#bd-email , using the twitter icon to indicate backfed vs native (instead of text like "via twitter.com")
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snarfed i do the same for post synd links on https://snarfed.org/ , but hadn't considered it for replies
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GWG snarfed, I built that
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snarfed oh?
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snarfed how do i turn it on?!
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GWG snarfed, it's on technically
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snarfed um please elaborate
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GWG Semantic Linkbacks does parse u-syndication on Webmentions and Syndication Links will display it. It needs better theme integration
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snarfed ok...? how can i make it show up on my site? :P
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GWG Well, Bridgy doesn't do u-syndication I believe
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GWG So, I should make it so it does it for backfed as well
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GWG Minor enhancement
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snarfed ahhhh right no bridgy doesn't do u-synd because it doesn't apply
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GWG So, all the pieces are there
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snarfed ...but it's not actually implemented yet
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GWG I like this. Writing it down
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snarfed got it. np!
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GWG snarfed, realized that it isn't quite
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GWG Talking it out
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snarfed in other news, i just finished purging twitter likes (>6k) as well as facebook and instagram likes. feels good. lighter. https://twitter.com/i/likes
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snarfed er, https://twitter.com/schnarfed/likes
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GWG https://github.com/dshanske/syndication-links/issues/103
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GWG I have your issue too
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Loqi [dshanske] #103 Add Syndication icons for Backfed Comments
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snarfed hmm it probably belongs in the semantic-linkbacks plugin, not synd-links, right?
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GWG snarfed, progressive enhancement. Semantic Linkbacks will get the data and Syndication Links will display the icon
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snarfed i understand the idea, it just still seems like the wrong place to add the feature
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GWG I just don't know if Semantic Linkbacks needs an icon set
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GWG I already bundle it in Syndication Links and Indieweb
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GWG WordPress is not good at dependency management
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snarfed oh i understand. it just seems like bad UX to require an unrelated plugin
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GWG Well, let me think about a middle ground if there is one
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snarfed thanks!
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GWG Right now, the comment template puts @twitter.com next to the name if it is a Twitter comment if you use the one built into Semantic Linkbacks
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GWG Like on this old post. https://david.shanske.com/2015/06/10/the-western-wall/
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Loqi [David Shanske] The Western Wall, Jerusalem https://david.shanske.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/P1000499.jpg
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GWG https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/issues/218
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Loqi [dshanske] #218 Add filter on hostname in Comment Walker
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GWG For starters
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[chrisaldrich] おはよう IndieWeb
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[chrisaldrich] Am I correct in thinking that Micropub, the spec, is capitalized like Webmention, but micropub as in micropub clients or micropub servers wouldn't be capitalized? a la /style-guide
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aaronpk hmm no i think it would still be capitalized in those cases since it's still a proper noun
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Loqi aaronpk: [voss] left you a message 1 hour, 26 minutes ago: you may delete the aperture account on https://aperture.p3k.io/microsub/147. I created it with my Known site in multi-user setting, and recently switched to single-user, which b0rked it. I've made a new aperture account instead.
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[chrisaldrich] thanks aaronpk
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jacky spent a lot of time looking into microsub and readers this morning; excited to start working on that!
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[tantek] jacky++
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[cleverdevil] Is anyone doing anything with weather on their website?
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[cleverdevil] Thinking it may be cool to automatically attach the weather at my current location to each and every post.
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aaronpk a few of us do that! :) https://indieweb.org/weather#IndieWeb_Examples
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[cleverdevil] \o/
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[cleverdevil] Awesome, thanks. /adds to list of things to look into...
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