#indieweb 2019-01-31

2019-01-31 UTC
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jacky I heard a lot about Dreamwidth/Livejournal
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[jgmac1106] Good morning
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Loqi *yawn* ... /stretch/
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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[kevinmarks] Love this https://rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2019/01/30/html-css-and-our-vanishing-industry-entry-points/
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[jgmac1106] ha ha reading this right now myself
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[davidmead] it’s a good article. Rachel echoes something I always bang on about…
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[davidmead] >those tools output HTML and CSS in the end
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[davidmead] and if you don’t understand what’s being ouput, your framework/tool choice doesn’t help
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[jgmac1106] But I think it is more than that as well. It is about the art of self.. People learn HTML and CSS because they want to shape identity
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[davidmead] totally.
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bradenslen Good Morning Indieweb
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[jgmac1106] Morning Brad
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bradenslen Morning Greg.
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[tantek] That’s exactly the kind of article I want to link to from a “web dev” page
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[jgmac1106] watching the power of webmentions blow people away: https://twitter.com/eldelacajita/status/1091039155910520833
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@eldelacajita @matteodic @danicotillas @hulyaertas @skotperez I think it's worth a close look. Also, thanks to @jgmac1106 for jumping in. Check his replies (which are somehow connected/made from his own site in a way I still have to understand ;) https://twitter.com/jgmac1106/status/1090618304262258688 (twitter.com/_/status/1091039155910520833)
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jmac Is the crowd here aware that comics & TV writer Warren Ellis (of whom I am an admirer) has started invoking IndieWeb in his weekly newsletter?
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jmac He's been describing his gradual move away from silos and his grudging embrace of self-run solutions over the last several months; the issue is the first where he mentioned IW by name, casually.
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snarfed cool! link?
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jacky oooh TIL
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jmac His newsletters are email-only alas, but you can subscribe via http://orbitaloperations.com.
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jmac Pull-quote from latest ish: "There's a federated IndieWeb version of IG called PixelFed, but it's going to run into all the problems that get in the way of Mastodon." (I don't know if PixelFed is actually an IW thing? It's not in the wiki. But he's started throwing the term around, anyway.)
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[jgmac1106] why not reach out to him https://twitter.com/warrenellis?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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jmac Anyway... if there are any Ellis fans amongst the veterans here, it might be nice to drop him a line and offer some guidance. It sounds like he really wants to get into IW, and he has been describing his attempts to his audience for some time
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[kevinmarks] He had a known site
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[kevinmarks] http://morning.computer/
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[schmarty] wow, announced yesterday that he was done updating morning.computer!
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jmac Oh dang I didn't notice that.
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jmac Which is me admitting I didn't read it either; I've just been following his weekly mailings for a while
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jacky lol
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[jgmac1106] @jmac I am saying why don't you do it, send him a note on Twitter from your website and invite him to chat for help
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jmac "well volunteered, jmac"
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[davidmead] warren is always playing around with different “web stuff”, even ay back with message boards before newsletters
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jmac You know what, I can indeed do this thing; just wanted to pop up the opportunity for anyone who wanted to do it more than me. :) (Or who may have already been acquainted with him, or wev.)
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jmac I'll pop him an @.
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[davidmead] i think he even had a Known instance once
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jmac [jgmac1106]: My website isn't really optimized for Tweet-length POSSE yet; I am still yelling directly at Birdsite. Hoping to change that this year.
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[jgmac1106] then shout at him and invite him to chat
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jmac Will do.
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[schmarty] jmac++
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Loqi jmac has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (19 in all channels)
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chrisaldrich Over a decade ago I used to be on Warren Ellis' representation team working on selling rights to his work into film. It's been ages, but I can try to reach out to him via phone shortly and make an appeal there as well.
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Loqi chrisaldrich: bradenslen left you a message 1 week, 1 day ago: Indieweb as a service sounds great. An indieweb replacement for Disqus would be wonderful.
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jacky ahh
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jacky an indieweb replacement for disqus would be commentparade!
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KartikPrabhu that sounds like a "comment silo"
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KartikPrabhu instead of "indieweb replacement"
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jacky what is? commentparade or disqus?
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jacky https://commentpara.de/ for ref
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KartikPrabhu commentpara.de
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jacky ah
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KartikPrabhu sure you can write comments, but they stay on commentpara.de no?
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jacky AFAICS yeah
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jacky eh
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jacky I figured it was an idea/proposal since it's using indieweb-adjacent things vs some closed off versions
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KartikPrabhu sure. I'm not saying no one should use it if they find it useful
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KartikPrabhu it does seem useful to write anonymous snarks https://kartikprabhu.com/articles/href-in-svg#httpscommentparadecomment167htm ;)
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Loqi [Anonymous] Every XML validator will have told you that you have to define a namespace prefix before using it. That’s not browser-specific, that’s how XML works.
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KartikPrabhu oh hey! Loqi did a fragment!
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KartikPrabhu Loqi++
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Loqi Loqi has 10 karma in this channel over the last year (53 in all channels)
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jacky woah
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aaronpk i think the point of comparing comment parade to disqus is that it lets people without a website comment on your stuff. it's only tangential that the comment is stored on comment parade.
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[davidmead] hi [Jen_Simmons]
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[kevinmarks] does disqus let you comment without logging into disqus?
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KartikPrabhu [kevinmarks]: afaik no