#indieweb 2019-02-02

2019-02-02 UTC
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[chrisaldrich]
[kevinmarks] with respect to your journalism question earlier Ben Walsh of LA Times has built savemy.news which might be helpful: https://indieweb.org/archival_copy#Savemy.News
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client35
Woah, more peeps in here than I expected :D
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[jgmac1106]
Good morning
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Loqi
guten morgen
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jeremycherfas
Good morning IndieWeb and Greg
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[jgmac1106]
okay here a challenge for someone create a feed of everybody's listen post and figure out a way to run a 24 radio station
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[kevinmarks]
Sounds like a job for huffduffer.com
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Loqi
What is ds106 Radio?
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[jgmac1106]
I love what ds106 did
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[jgmac1106]
good to know Loqi can't trigger himself to prompt a DFN
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davy__
Hey, I'm currently trying to experiment with webmentions, does anyone know of a convenient endpoint for testing replies? The reply wiki page mentions Aaron Parecki's site, but I wouldn't want to clutter his feed with a bunch of test replies
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[schmarty]
Hi davy__ you can try webmention.rocks - it's a pretty complete test set for checking how a site or publishing tool handles webmentions.
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Loqi
[Webmention Rocks!] Update Test #1
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[jgmac1106]
Version 1.5 of Mozillas Web Literacy Mao we really tried to up the focus specifically on reading and writing for the web: https://learning.mozilla.org/blog/web-literacy-map-v1-5 Mozilla buried the version and then released 2.0 with a new team "invite only"
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petermolnar
snarfed++
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Loqi
snarfed has 36 karma in this channel over the last year (113 in all channels)
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petermolnar
fed.brid.gy is black magic
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swentel
heh yeah
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swentel
pity activitypub is implemented differently on most services :/
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swentel
it's hard to get it right for every service
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petermolnar
at least we don't have to roll our own, given fed.brid.gy is there
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petermolnar
so less snowflakes
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swentel
that's true
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Zegnat
I seem to recall a good blogpost from a Diaspora dev (?) on that, swentel. About how projects calling themselves AP-compat weren’t automatically guaranteed to be interoperable
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[jgmac1106]
I would propose not using the word snowflakes, its a loaded term and also used as a dogwhistle by the far right
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swentel
yeah, been trying to talk with pixelfed for weeks now
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swentel
but the implementation is buggy
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swentel
peertube is a bit better, not far off there
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petermolnar
[jgmac1106]: with respect, I'm getting tired of phrases being hijacked by groups, there's nothing wrong with snowflake in the context of my own static generator's potential AS compatibility
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Zegnat
Interesting read.
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[jgmac1106]
I misunderstood your contexrt
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Zegnat
Though if we want to go further into it, might I suggest #indieweb-dev so we do not use too much /jargon in here? :D
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[jgmac1106]
I thought you were referring to people who were sensitive to disagreement
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petermolnar
if there's wiggle room in a spec, we get another ISO8601 which is madness
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[jgmac1106]
My apologies, happened a few times yesterday and I meant to mention it, as term to describe people it is usually thrown on those fighting for equity
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petermolnar
I know that, which is why I pointed out that context matters :)
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[jgmac1106]
I think i crossed channels as well as I flipped between chat and indieweb, good reminder to myself to slow down, read, understand, think, then write
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[kevinmarks]
Snowflake is from Fight Club and has dodgy political associations, especially now. Snowflake API was coined around the time of poco/as1 iirc
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[kevinmarks]
Ryan called his unique id service at twitter Snowflake too
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davy__
Thanks schmarty and swentel , that looks like just the thing I need!
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[tantek]
What is a snowflake?
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Loqi
snowflake in the context of the indieweb, is typically used to refer in a derogatory way to "snowflake APIs", APIs that are (often silo) website or service provider-specific (unique like snowflakes) rather than an open standard https://indieweb.org/snowflake
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[tantek]
[jgmac1106] you can just ask Loqi ;)
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Mikaela
I hadn't encountered the term before and only connected it to Tor's Snowflake bridge https://snowflake.torproject.org/
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[schmarty]
woah that is an interesting Tor bridge idea!
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[kevinmarks]
Add it to see also too?
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[jgmac1106]
yeah I hopped from chat to indieweb and hadn't had coffee yet
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[jgmac1106]
nice to connect with the edcamp folks gwg might be an interesting approach to offer them a custom theme for all the edcamps out there
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[jgmac1106]
most are on either Google sites (eww) or WordPress
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GWG
Oh?
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[tantek]
the Fightclub meaning did lead to the proprietary API label (sarcastic "beautiful and unique snowflake")
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@youngvulgarian
You know what I miss? Blogs. I miss blogs! I miss doing my weekly round of half a dozen blogs I liked to see if anyone had posted anything new, instead of just scrolling on here then on Instagram then on here again. I think we should bring back blogs.
(twitter.com/_/status/1091720207373086720)
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jacky
that blog post re: activitypub is 502ing :(
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jacky
Anchakor++
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Loqi
Anchakor has 2 karma over the last year
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gRegorLove
Good afternoon, #indieweb
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[tantek]
confirmed 502, and confirmed archiveis link works
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[tantek]
used citation template to fix up that See Also, then ended up fixing more
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