#indieweb 2019-02-11

2019-02-11 UTC
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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sknebel good morning
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Loqi morning!
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Zegnat How is the IndieWeb world doing today?
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mickael Hi
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mickael If I want to meet people by attending an event on Indieweb, what are good opportunities ?
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mickael Austin may not be that convenient for me, any other option ?
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mickael would need to fly there from Europe
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mickael Ah, just found this: https://indieweb.org/Events
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sknebel mickael: there's probably also going to be something in Utrecht this year, and maybe Vienna
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mickael Thanks
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mickael Also tempted by the IndieWeb Summit in Portland
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Zegnat The Berlin event was very varied last year, with several people flying in from the US. So that might also be one to keep an eye on.
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Zegnat I think Europe has been pretty good with events lately
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Zegnat mickael, where are you based?
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mickael Yes, Berlin is usually a nice spot
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mickael Great community there
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mickael In Paris, so flying to Berlin is quite fast
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mickael I put both in my agenda, I will watch the schedule and try to attend, thanks !
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[jgmac1106] Good morning
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[jgmac1106] Mickael it isn't f2f but we are trying to make Online as interactive as possible
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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[Rose] Hi Mickael! Vienna and Utrecht, even Dusseldorf shouldn't be too hard to get to either.
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[Rose] Which is your preferred airport? I always used CDG.
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mickael CDG, yes
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[adam] Morning all, I’m sure this is covered somewhere in the vast Wiki, but something I’m finding a real drag with POSSE is interacting with Twitter _on_ Twitter. In particular, from the native app.
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[adam] Thoughts?
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[adam] In part, I could make my ‘reply to’ in my own CMS a bit easier to use (e.g. pre-populating the usernames from the reply to link), but generally, I can’t imagine ever moving ‘like’ to my site in POSSE because I just just want to hit the damn heart. I can add an extension in browser I guess, but I don’t want to replace the native Twitter app just because I want to track stuff on my own site.
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[Rose] Adam, have you considered Microsub? I am slowly adding the people I want to follow on Twitter/Mastodon there, and interacting with Monocle or Indigenous.
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[jgmac1106] My sending of a like is a one button push (and a copy of the url) so two buttons...but maybe a little friction for a h/t is a good thing
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[jgmac1106] ..but I don't keep the Native app on my phone, try to keep all social media off my phone for mental well being so hard for me to know the use case
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[jgmac1106] I do put Twitter on and off if I go to conference
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[jgmac1106] hey all @internetarchive redid their uploader, it is no longer a mess of flash...if you do Public Domain or Creative Commons license you can see good bye to YouTube much easier now
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[adam] Hi Rose, thanks, I’ll take a look - I’m slowly building things up. but yes, I think part of the solution is going to not interacting with Twitter directly, which, by definition, keep things to the silo I guess.
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aaronpk [adam]: I have two solutions to that which I totally agree is a problem
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aaronpk one, I've moved most of my Twitter following into Aperture so I have a one click like button from my reader apps
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aaronpk two, I use Indigenous on iOS which provides a share target, so from the Twitter app I can "share" the tweet to indigenous which lets me "like" it
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aaronpk its a couple clicks but not too bad
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Zegnat I wonder if it is possible to get a share sheet action that posts a like and skips the gui completely? That would then be a two click and visually never leave the Twitter app
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jeremycherfas [Rose] could make it happen.
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aaronpk Zegnat: it does
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aaronpk the indigenous app never actually opens
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Zegnat Ah, alright, that’s better than I understood from your explanation! Cool!
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[Rose] I could make it happen, but as [eddie] already did it there's no need to 🤓
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aaronpk I was gonna upload a video but I'm so mad Apple broke Shortcuts
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[Rose] What broke for you?
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[Rose] I have a few radars open right now because things are weird for me (I'm on the beta though.)
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aaronpk I can't share media into shortcuts anymore
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[Rose] Ahh, that was broken for ages for me, but it's fixed in the latest beta.
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aaronpk Shoot ok
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aaronpk Hurry up Apple
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Zegnat [Rose], aaronpk, did you see I updated the /Shortcuts wiki page with some more details about the previous vague personal-info-leak issue?
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[Rose] (My syncing is still wobbly, and tapping library doesn't scroll as it should, grr.)
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[Rose] I did not see.
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[Rose] Hmm, I wonder if talking about things already patched in the wiki is helpful, it might give people the wrong impression - and most iOS users have auto update on for their apps.
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[Rose] Though it needs to be included somewhere for people who vaguely heard about something related.
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Zegnat Because I linked the initial report, I feel like I also had to link the follow-up, rather than removing a bug that was fixed
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[Rose] That makes sense.
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sknebel https://twitter.com/m_ott/status/1094653858943508481
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@m_ott ✍ I'm writing an article about personal websites and need your help! What website/RSS feed directories do you know of that should be included in the article? Thanks for your help and every RT! 🤗 (twitter.com/_/status/1094653858943508481)
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petermolnar sknebel: should we add a link to /irc-people ?
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[schmarty] i thought we renamed that to /chat-names ?
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[eddie] We did
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[eddie] /irc-people redirects to /chat-names
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[cleverdevil] Good morning, IndieWeb 🙂
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[cleverdevil] I just successfully migrated Indiepaper to use a self-hosted version of the website parser engine I was using 🙂
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[cleverdevil] (They just recently open sourced it and announced that they're shuttering their hosted version).
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sknebel the postlight thing?
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[cleverdevil] Yup.
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[cleverdevil] They made it really easy to self-host it on AWS Lambda.
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[cleverdevil] One command and it deploys it for you.
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[kevinmarks] interesting
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[kevinmarks] worth adding mf2 support? (I know it looks for hentry)
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[cleverdevil] Probably, but I am not a Node developer.
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[kevinmarks] cleverdevil, want to make a wiki page for it. Is it mercury?
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[eddie] That’s very cool, [cleverdevil]!
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[kevinmarks] what is mercury?
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Loqi Mercury is a suite of reading related tools featuring an API that takes any web article and returns only the relevant content — headline, author, body text, relevant images and more — free from any clutter https://indieweb.org/Mercury
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[cleverdevil] I already do the MF2 parsing inside of Indiepaper, so I don't really need it 😉
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[cleverdevil] https://github.com/cleverdevil/indiepaper/blob/master/indiepaper/extract.py
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[kevinmarks] to dev
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jacky morning indieweb
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snarfed does anyone here automatically purge their silo posts, likes, or anything else regularly?
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snarfed i'm considering purging twitter likes daily or weekly
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snarfed i'd love to do the same w/instagram but no API 😡
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[cleverdevil] I’ve been using the private, undocumented Instagram API for a while now [snarfed] 😀
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snarfed all i hear is "scraping"
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snarfed 🙉
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[cleverdevil] Heh. Nope. No scraping. There is a Python lib out there that has implemented the same API that is used by the iOS app.
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[cleverdevil] https://github.com/ping/instagram_private_api
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Loqi [ping] instagram_private_api: A Python library to access Instagram's private API.
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snarfed yeah i'm using the term liberally. i know the data is graphql under the covers; i parse it out of html myself. but it changes semi regularly. not an API, just slightly nicer scraping.
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snarfed (er, i parse it out of json embedded in ig's html.)
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snarfed on a related scraping note, wtf, why does bridgy instagram scraping suddenly think i'm the president of india? https://brid.gy/instagram/snarfed#responses
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snarfed spot checked a few other bridgy IG accounts, they're all ok
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gRegorLove bummer, I want to be the president of India
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gRegorLove I haven't thought about purging them, snarfed, but I have noticed a lot of "spam" likes from businesses if I include a location on my IG photos. I've been manually hiding those on my site after the fact.
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snarfed oh i mean my own likes
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gRegorLove Ohh
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snarfed i want to continue liking on silos as a form of interaction, etiquette, etc, but i'd rather not have them live and be visible forever
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gRegorLove Interesting
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snarfed aha, figured out the president of india bug. someone plugged those IG post URLs into the "Resend for post" box on https://brid.gy/instagram/snarfed . no clue why.
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[jgmac1106] So I think I have successfully tested a Post, reply, like, note, and photo on Blogger https://drmacsspot.blogspot.com/
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Loqi [Greg McVerry] Liked: Ian O'Byrne
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[jgmac1106] hmmm, but I pulled my sidebar h-card because two were posting...but maybe two h-cards parsed would be better result
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[jgmac1106] https://drmacsspot.blogspot.com/
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Loqi Liked: Ian O'Byrne
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[jgmac1106] grrr, ohh well close
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[chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] For your kids on Blogger (and the tutorial) note that you can send "manual" webmentions using a few tools: https://indieweb.org/Webmention#Manual_Webmentions
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cambridgeport90[ Not sure how the hell I fell off this thing, guys. Sorry about that. Hi.
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[jgmac1106] https://drmacsspot.blogspot.com/ but now just a dirty iframe...now off to feed the kids
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chrisaldrich Brid.gy should support sending outgoing webmentions: https://brid.gy/about#blogs
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chrisaldrich jgmac1106++ for blogger experiments and tutorials; reminds me I need to finish up the WP.com stuff I was working on.
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Loqi jgmac1106 has 30 karma in this channel over the last year (113 in all channels)
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snarfed yes! ...but re getting lower generations onto the indieweb, micro.blog is arguably as good or better now than blogger, wp.com, etc. the only caveat is wms to/from external sites, and they're supposedly working on those. https://indieweb.org/web_hosting#Custom_domain_silos
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chrisaldrich snarfed, I'm on board with your modifications there too, but I don't think we'd ever documented some of the other pre-existing options the way Greg is.
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snarfed fair. bridgy has all the instructions inside its UI, but most of those details aren't in its docs
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chrisaldrich snarfed: as a quick fyi, the example link you use under https://brid.gy/about#user doesn't exist anymore. If you don't have another quick one handy, I can try to make one as part of some experiments I'm planning.
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snarfed the medium issues links? yeah they closed issues on that github repo entirely. should just remove that sentence. feel free to send a PR!
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chrisaldrich No, the example of how to create a secondary WordPress user for receiving webmentions so one doesn't get the pseudo-UI issues seen on kevinmarks' blogger site where it looks like all the comments come from him.
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chrisaldrich Snarfed, you're probably seeing the wrong segment because that fragment targets the last paragraph in the page so it doesn't scroll down far enough.