#indieweb 2019-03-04

2019-03-04 UTC
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jacky is there like a 'demo' MF2 site that one can use? I made https://static-relme-site.jacky.wtf/ for my own purposes / testing (largely for Fortress) but curious if anyone has solutions
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Loqi Anthony Edward Stark
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aaronpk https://microformats.io ?
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jacky hm I'm thinking something like http://httpbin.org/ but for mf2
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aaronpk sounds devvy
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "The more I think about social readers; the more I realize that we’d have to come a bit like half-way for those we’d want to pull in. Like I want to finally be able to walk up to Anil Dash and ..." https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/197a97c2-7f92-4212-80b8-5a8ef5ebda3e
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jacky oh nice and I got the permalink to the indienews link on my site
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jacky interesting site https://www.pillowfort.io/
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jacky looks like mastodon has support for polling now
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jacky https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/101689153668976003
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[tantek] yes he was asking about Poll posts in w3c # social last week I think. or the week before
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jacky I need to get more active on that server
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[tantek] it's usually pretty quiet
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[tantek] jacky, here's another one of those long social web threads that I have yet to weigh-in on: https://twitter.com/johnmccrea/status/1101744114557628418
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@johnmccrea Opening the Social Graph, @jsmarr @daveman692 @chrismessina @t @bradfitz @timoreilly @Ross #BarCamp https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0oubSZU8AEzSEL.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1101744114557628418)
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jeremycherfas Morning IndieWeb Busy morning, so far.
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[eddie] I'm thinking about tracking mood via emojis but does anyone know how screen readers treat emojis? Do they just read the emoji text definition for that emoji character?
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[eddie] Because the other option would be deciding on text to match each emoji that could be seen to convey "emotion" and have my site present that text alongside or as a title text of the emoji
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aaronpk if it's anything like the text to speech systems in cars then yes https://twitter.com/aaronreynolds/status/1083098920132071424
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@aaronreynolds This is what it’s like to get texts from my fourteen year old while driving. https://twitter.com/aaronreynolds/status/1083098920132071424/video/1 (twitter.com/_/status/1083098920132071424)
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[eddie] haha oh yeah! I remember that tweet now
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[eddie] The only thing I'm not sure about is that is Apple CarPlay and Apple (IMO) often puts more thought and intention into things that other software manufacturers. I haven't ever heard of something like that which isn't tied to Apple
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[eddie] Hopefully that's the case then. I'll continue moving forward with experimentation just with emojis and hopefully that will work well enough
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[eddie] If not, I can add to it
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[eddie] I've thought about some type of numerical tracking (like 1-5, 1-10) but that always feels artificial in some way. I'm thinking emojis are more human, less artificial and if I ever want to quantify it, I could always go through and give numerical attributes to the various emoji, positive or negative depending on if it is a positive or negative mood
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aaronpk i tried numerical tracking for a little over a year and didn't really like it
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[eddie] That would allow me to eventually just mathematically add up the emojis and still get a number summary for say the month without ever really thinking in numbers
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aaronpk 1-5
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[eddie] Yeah, I was doing it on the same system as you have
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aaronpk i think choosing 5 faces is better than numbers, but even then i still don't really like it
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[eddie] Yeah, I feel like the challenge is days aren't always on the same gradient
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[eddie] So even when you try to replace the 5 positions with human text or 5 faces it's still this single trajectory gradient that feels fake to me
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[eddie] Like one day I might just feel like 🤦
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[eddie] and that doesn't feel like that matches 1 out of only 5 positions lol
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aaronpk i also started feeling guilty about rating 4 days in a row with 😊
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[eddie] lol!
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aaronpk it's probably more accurate to let yourself add multiple emoji on a day instead of trying to pick just one
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aaronpk like "here are all the feelings i felt today"
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aaronpk but then that's a lot harder to show pretty graphs from ;-)
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[eddie] Oh absolutely. One thing I like that Felix does (https://whereisfelix.today) is he rates morning, noon and night
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aaronpk oh that's such a good domain
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[eddie] it is!
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[eddie] I also like the three ratings a day because it's mathematical so you can always average out the three numbers (if you have numbers associated) to get an average for the day
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[eddie] I feel like my ratings at night are heavily influenced by the last few hours of the day
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[eddie] which links back to what tantek says about yearly reviews being heavily influenced by the last few months of the year
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[eddie] I'm planning on doing a homepage overhaul that is heavily inspired by https://whereisfelix.today
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aaronpk now i want to too lol
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aaronpk oh wow https://nomadlist.com is kind of like dopplr!
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[eddie] what do you want to do? the domain, the multiple moods a day or the homepage?
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aaronpk the home page
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[eddie] ahh yeah, it's pretty nifty
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aaronpk considering doing it on a secondary domain tho too :D
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[eddie] Especially because you do so many trips
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[eddie] The trip stuff isn't as much for me but I like everything else on his page
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[eddie] haha domains are very tricky things
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aaronpk someone already registered whereisaaron.today :(
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[eddie] oh no!
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[eddie] He's also working on PESOSing his Instagram Stories
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[eddie] see the Instapipe GitHub repo in his latest commit on his page
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aaronpk wow
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[eddie] "Because it's your content" as the description of the repo
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[eddie] lol
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[eddie] felixkrause++
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Loqi felixkrause has 1 karma over the last year
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sknebel [eddie]: just tested: NVDA just announces the text equivalent, so for 🤦 it just says " Person Facepalming", interestingly enough without any indication that it'S an emoji, at least from a text field
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[tantek] as far as tracking emotions / mood on a daily basis, the most accuracy (to actual) has come from those apps that randomly ask you at different times of the day how you are feeling, and letting you pick quickly from a preset list (to reduce the cognitive load, time you spend thinking about what you are feeling thus altering how you are feeling)
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[tantek] so that would be a very different kind of micropub client, one that pops-up and asks you, instead of you activating it
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aaronpk I also really like the 3D map on https://nomadlist.com/@krausefx and might have to do that myself now
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aaronpk i used to have a little dashboard site like whereisfelix.today. that was before i was posting notes and photos on my own site, back when it was mostly a portfolio site and blog
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aaronpk http://web.archive.org/web/20130112232245/http://aaron.pk/
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Loqi Aaron Parecki
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sknebel there's also pretty neat tooling to do 3d globes with maps. I just don't travel enough intercontinentally to make any use of those :D
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[grantcodes] Yeah the nomadlist guy is good for adding tons of random features (maybe too much imo)
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[grantcodes] And RE mood tracking, a friend of mine made a really cool font that just shows words as straight lines but negative words are waves, so you get a quick visualization of how negative a piece of text is: http://lab.rc3.me/moriarty/
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eddiehinkle aaronpk I love how the P and K lines are colored differently when they leave that band in your historical site
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eddiehinkle Oh wow, how interesting [grantcodes]!
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eddiehinkle sknebel Thanks! That's good to know!
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eddiehinkle [tantek] That's exactly what I've thought about actually, having a Micropub client with a preset list of emojis that pops up at the times of day that you set it up for
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sknebel generally, there's nowadays a bunch of free screen readers, so you can reasonably test at least some things with them. I say some things since "starting a screen reader" and "making proper use of it" is quite a learning curve, but it's been interesting to try use my site with one
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eddiehinkle ohhh yeah that's interesting sknebel
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sknebel for windows there's NVDA, and I think iOS and Android both have ones by Apple/Google
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jgmac1106 stealing an idea from rhiaro I switched my name on twitter to my url already trying to @ mention people by url and I like the way it looks: https://twitter.com/jgmac1106
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tw2113 main thing i know of is that i have https://trexthepirate.com/me/ and it has a PayPal.me link, curious to see if anyone ever actually uses it just cause :D
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jgmac1106 https://thehill.com/policy/technology/432519-pelosi-says-democrats-to-introduce-net-neutrality-bill-this-week
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ZivBK1 Is there a good way to share some of your content to specific subscribers?
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ZivBK1 For example, I would like to have only members of my family have access to more 'personal' posts, but have public streams for others.
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aaronpk i've seen either having people log in to your site and some posts are only visible after logging in, or creating a private mailing list and pushing those posts out via email
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aaronpk podcasts also do this with "private" feeds which are really just a secret URL that is shared with subscribers, to either provide special members-only episodes or special updates from their blog
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jgmac1106 ZivBK1: WordPress handles this with password protected post. Known does this with member only posts, and aaronpk already described the semi-private url
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