#indieweb 2019-05-28

2019-05-28 UTC
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[jgmac1106] good morning all
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GWG Morning
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Loqi morning!
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[tonz] Good morning!
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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petermolnar !tell Zegnat I think I found my way of doing too much information: rel alternative formats of a post of mine. So far I have plain text, JSON-LD, oembed+JSON, oembed+XML, the original HTML+MF2 - can you think of anything else that something might consume?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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petermolnar when specifying a mime type that has a + (application/ld+json) is it format+subtype or subtype+format, so application/ld+json or application/json+ld ?
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Zegnat ld+json
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Loqi Zegnat: petermolnar left you a message 5 minutes ago: I think I found my way of doing too much information: rel alternative formats of a post of mine. So far I have plain text, JSON-LD, oembed+JSON, oembed+XML, the original HTML+MF2 - can you think of anything else that something might consume?
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Zegnat Though I do not think that is a thing anyone understands :P
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Zegnat -> #dev
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[jgmac1106] [petermolnar_] Dublin Core still pretty much (really the only place) used in academic libraries
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petermolnar I wonder if there are specifically DC build parsers that are not able to use general RDF
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aaronpk found via adactio :) http://fabianburghardt.de/webolution/
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sknebel The Evolution of Webdesign can't be experienced on smartphones. But send yourself a small reminder:
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aaronpk accurate. there were no smartphones in 1991 ;-)
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cweiske apple newton!
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[kevinmarks786] Not a phone, not very smart.
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cweiske don't tell me today's smartphones are "smart"
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[kevinmarks786] I speak as a Newton developer. Somehow their internal data module thing, soups, made reading or writing data O(n^2) - as we were porting information reference products to it, this was less than ideal
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petermolnar 2005 is right in the bones
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petermolnar as in YES that is way too similar to how my site looked like :D
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[tonz] 1993, ooh yes, Mosaic’s grey background. That’s how my first site looked.
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[jgmac1106] I know we have blind members of the community and many helped me as I worked my student Isabel as she designed web pages. Wanted to say thank you and share her new website: https://myguidedogjourney.home.blog/ stop by and leave her a comment (haven't worked with her to set up Bridgy yet)
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jeremycherfas Very nice, [jgmac1106] but I can't abide leaving comments on WP.com sites.
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[jgmac1106] then a webmention...she will get a pingback I think...do you have your reasoning documented anywhere as to why you do not comment on WP sites?
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petermolnar not WP sites, wordpress.com sites
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jeremycherfas !tell [jgmac1106] I didn't say I don't do it. I said I can't abide doing it, because the logon is a farce and it subverts any attempt to manage my own identity. When she is receiving webmentions I may be willing to try again.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jeremycherfas petermolnar++
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Loqi petermolnar has 7 karma in this channel over the last year (17 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106] Yeah... So many times I want to leave comments but I have to sign into WP to do so.... Or use a different email not connecting to my identity. Is PITA
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[jgmac1106] But still need some platform to onboard. Will look to micro.blog once they offer annual pricing
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[jgmac1106] https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/445628-crossfit-suspends-facebook-instagram-accounts
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[jgmac1106] That is an interesting silo almost quit
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[tantek] What is a silo pause?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "silo pause" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "silo pause is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] Wait what. I though someone had created a separate page for this recently like in the past week or so
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[jgmac1106] maybe mentioned on the Instagram page? https://indieweb.org/Instagram only thing that came up on search
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[tantek] No no someone was literally talking about pauses or breaks maybe
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[tantek] Maybe it was [chrisaldrich] ?
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[tantek] What pages has he created recently? Start there
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[tantek] He created one because /silo-quits was getting big anyway so it made sense to start splitting out the “pauses”
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[jgmac1106] What is pause?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "pause" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "pause is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[jgmac1106] What is purge?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "purge" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "purge is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[jgmac1106] Hmmm...
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gRegorLove what is soft quit?
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Loqi A soft quit of a silo is when a person temporarily leaves, deactivates, or takes an extended break from one or more social media platforms for any of a wide variety of reasons https://indieweb.org/soft_quit
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[jgmac1106] gRegorLove++
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Loqi gRegorLove has 18 karma in this channel over the last year (84 in all channels)
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[chrisaldrich] pause is /soft_quit
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Loqi ok
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[tantek] what is silo pause
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Loqi A soft quit of a silo is when a person temporarily leaves, deactivates, or takes an extended break from one or more social media platforms for any of a wide variety of reasons https://indieweb.org/silo_pause
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[tantek] gregorlove++
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Loqi gregorlove has 19 karma in this channel over the last year (85 in all channels)
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jacky asking for discovery but will check in a few before lunch - did some kind of resolve come from the Euro IWCs around private posts?
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sebsel are we in a position to resolve things? :)
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sebsel what kind of resolution are you looking for, jacky?
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sebsel We had some interesting discussions about UI for private posts in Düsseldorf: https://indieweb.org/2019/D%C3%BCsseldorf/privateui
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jacky sebsel: something on the road to implementation I can use
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[kevinmarks786] Indieweb discount for oscon https://twitter.com/oscon/status/1118204379214110720?s=20
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[eddie] jacky: Next step to implementation is getting actual testing for the current proposed method of private posts (aka AutoAuth). In order to test and see how implementation goes, we need to actually implement it
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[eddie] But that's more a dev conversation. But I will say until a certain number of people implement that on their own site to find potential issues, it won't be able to move forward or be turned down
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[eddie] If you wanna talk about that topic more, #dev is open 😄
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jacky definitely
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[tantek] what is OSCON
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Loqi OSCON is O'Reilly annual Open Source Convention https://indieweb.org/OSCON
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[tantek] OSCON << 2019 discount for independents! https://twitter.com/oscon/status/1118204379214110720
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@oscon Don’t have a big company to foot your conference bill? We get it. We’re offering 50% OFF for independent contributors, consultants, and contractors to attend #OSCON. Just use code INDIE at checkout https://oreil.ly/2SXz6NE https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4So9MuW0AMiRG7.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1118204379214110720)
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Loqi ok, I added "2019 discount for independents! https://twitter.com/oscon/status/1118204379214110720" to a brand new "See Also" section of /OSCON https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=61742&oldid=33179
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GWG This depresses me. A formerly active personal blog dying. http://librarianinblack.net/librarianinblack/rip-lib-net-2003-2019/