#indieweb 2019-06-20

2019-06-20 UTC
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aaronpk
haha awesome
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aaronpk
what is Doodle?
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Loqi
Doodle is a lightweight scheduling webapp that lets you punch in your availability and figures it all out https://indieweb.org/Doodle
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[jgmac1106]
adding it
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aaronpk
What is a poll?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "poll" yet. Would you like to create it?_J (Or just say "poll is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jgmac1106[m]
Interesting piece by Khurt on discovery and bias when driven by humans https://islandinthenet.com/going-full-indie/
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[manton]
Yeah, Jean and I try to be aware of inherent bias. We definitely want a larger and even more diverse team. But Discover also isn't the only way to find people. And I do think it is a good reflection of the types of posts that are coming through Micro.blog.
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[tantek]
Huh thought we had some documentation somewhere of Twitter polls as a feature at least
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[jgmac1106]
great place for photographers like [Khurt] even if they all shot with iPhones
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[eddie]
[manton] Yeah, it's tough. I don't think that post was quite fair, and I think part of it is fueled by some of it's own bias, because that journey started from a blog post by someone else that left the platform visibly and blogged about it. I know I see a bunch of stuff on Discover that interests me and a bunch that doesn't. So using that as a tell, it feels like you are doing a good job, I would be concerned if everything on there was of interest t
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[eddie]
But, just keep trying to be aware of bias, and as you can do what you can to grow the moderation team. I think Micro.blog is doing so well, it is often judged by the standards beyond it's age
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[eddie]
In so many ways, it FEELS like a very stable, older platform. I think you've done so well in some areas, people forget how little amount of time it's really been available to the public and being built
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[eddie]
manton++
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Loqi
manton has 27 karma in this channel over the last year (64 in all channels)
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[eddie]
microblog++
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Loqi
microblog has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
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[eddie]
micro.blog++ haha not sure which we use for it's karma
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Loqi
micro.blog has 1 karma over the last year
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[manton]
[eddie] Thank you! Yeah, I wonder if sometimes we need to remind everyone that we are still small. ๐Ÿ™‚ There is a lot of work to do and growth ahead.
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jacky
Wow, tbh, if Khurt didn't write this, I might have. I expected something different from micro.blog (an interface that wove different blogs together to encourage social interactions) but it didn't resolve to be that for me.
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jacky
And I totally stand out on the platform in terms of alignments and what not (younger - not a parent, background, etc etc)
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[eddie]
I think it's fair to say you may not fit in on the platform or find a community. But I think the issue is it feels like many people then frame it as there is something wrong with Micro.blog
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[eddie]
But it's never claimed to be the social platform that ends all other platforms
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jacky
Yeah, I def agree with that. And definitely going in there assuming that is a recipe for disaster
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[eddie]
I guess what did you expect it to be jacky? If it didn't match your expectations?
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[eddie]
To be more topic based?
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[eddie]
or something else?
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jacky
Slightly - with discovery being more heralded. If you don't have any pre-existing relationships with people on there then it's hard to find things of interest
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jacky
But discovery is an infinitely difficult problem. I figured with a semi-centralized platform it would have more of it
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[eddie]
Interesting. I think the two challenges to these issues are 1: manton prefers to take slower more deliberate steps because it's harder to take steps back then forward.
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[eddie]
and 2: a quote from Manton's blog post "we need multiple social networks that interoperate via the web instead of just a couple of huge platforms." It's about a plurality of networks, the same way that IndieWeb believes in plurality
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[eddie]
That doesn't mean it can't be improved
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jacky
Indeed!
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jacky
And I think that's the kind of action that has to be taken - making deliberate steps _not_ to do too much
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[eddie]
I just think for a small team working on the platform for a small amount of time, it's doing a lot of things well, and it'll continue to get better.
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jacky
If anything, my awareness of this is also motivation to work on something similar
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[eddie]
Awesome!
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[jessrose]
๐Ÿ‘‹
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jacky
hey there [jessrose]!
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[jessrose]
Delightful to be here
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[grantcodes]
Allrighty alltogethernow.io is now updated to version 3 ๐ŸŽ‰ in a massive update. If you've used it before you might have to do some hard refreshing
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jacky
was going to ask if it gave h-app info but you're using the <data> approach
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jacky
perhaps using that as a chance to show a more friendly / page when JavaScript isn't enabled (or reading from one's site)?
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[grantcodes]
Yes jacky, now that is has a landing page, I should probably render that without JS
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[grantcodes]
Before that update there was only a login page, so wasn't really worth it