#indieweb 2019-07-18

2019-07-18 UTC
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[tantek] from the specific event page, yes. similar to how other cities link to the Indie Event etc.
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prtksxna Done! Thanks [tantek] 😊
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[tantek] prtksxna++
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[Michael_Beckwit thoughts on creativecommons licenses on content? if at all?
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aaronpk what is license?
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Loqi license is terms under which you are allowed to (re)use a piece of work; in the context of the IndieWeb, for source code such as in open source projects, or content, like the IndieWeb wiki itself which has a specific Copyright https://indieweb.org/license
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[Michael_Beckwit perhaps i’m more curious how CC licenses fit in overall 😄
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aaronpk Hm I know a bunch of us license our content as some CC license, looks like that page could use some examples
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[jgmac1106] Morning all
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[jgmac1106] [Michael_Beckwith] Do you want a brief summary of CC licenses on that page?
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GWG Morning, [jgmac1106]
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jgmac1106 morning gwg sorry I bailed have all the cousins sleeping over after day at Amusement Park yesterday
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skippy ahoy hoy.
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[tonz] [Michael_Beckwith] [aaronpk] I use a cc by sa license on my blog, as I want to allow professional peer network learning (so no nc) , but don't want others to lock such learning up (so sa). My photos are all by nc sa, to allow any reuse if shared alike but no commercial reuse before obtaining my permission. (full disclosure, I am a board member of the Dutch creative commons chapter Open Nederland)
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jgmac1106 tonz make a == IndieWeb Example == section
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jgmac1106 I think Charlie had a great thing on her blog in her footer something like “Insert copyright bullshit that has no legal standing” or something similar…need to go look
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jgmac1106 ..not on the new site
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jgmac1106 I too use a CC BY SA but allow comercial use, bc really nobody wants to steal my stuff
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jgmac1106 and if some small little for profit school somewhere in the world wants to go ahead,
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jgmac1106 I do copyright all my kids stuff as I feel it isn’t my place to choose their license, let them when they are older
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jgmac1106 I don’t have rel=“license” on everything me thinks, need to go back and do..I also use a TON of CC stuff on my website, maybe will go back and fork cogdog’s img and do it..I did once before but stuck u-photo on everything..before I knew any better
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[kimberlyhirsh] jgmac1106 That @TressieMcPhD piece is a dense read but great.
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jgmac1106 yeah especially how the content plays out, blogs as fighting dominant narrative, I really need to do a deep read
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jgmac1106 I mean not content harrassement, being told “you don’t belong” versus rape threats, and I had the thought that all the harrassment was coming from facebook shares
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[kimberlyhirsh] Yeah, I did an introduction & conclusion skim. The argument of personal blog as a digital text that can be considered data equal to autoethnography is powerful.
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jgmac1106 at what point is the exposure worth the hate or shoudl someone not have to be driven from platform becuase of hate, and no way any alogrithim good enough to catch that sexism and racism
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[kimberlyhirsh] Hard for a non-sociologist to maneuver around the specialist language, but rewarding.
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[kimberlyhirsh] Yeah, keyword flagging isn't going to catch implications that scholars don't belong.
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jgmac1106 well when you have a President telling people “You Don’t Belong” the problem is much bigger than facebook and blogging just glad we have brave folks like @TressieMcPhD so many of my students get inspired by the way she works openly
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jgmac1106 getting off topic happy to head to #chat if you wanted to continue
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jgmac1106 just shared in main channel as I feel it provides important insights into D&I around blogging and networks
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[Michael_Beckwit sounds like mostly share alike and no commercial, when used
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jgmac1106 I would say CC BY-SA most common
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[Michael_Beckwit word
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[Michael_Beckwit i should also look into a new donation to their foundation soon
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[Michael_Beckwit wholly unrelated
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Loqi yea
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jgmac1106 and in many ways its nopt about my content, like I said nobody wants it, moreso its about defending the Commons as a whole, I want tto model the practice of helping others get credit for their creations while also contributing to a global shared and open knowledge base
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jgmac1106 there is a new cert class Alan Levine made if you want a truly deep dive
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[Michael_Beckwit promotion as a whole, i like it
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jgmac1106 yeah maybe we can allow discovery to be helped out with their search and discovery tools
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jgmac1106 still mainly for transofroming not realky consuming content, but new search tools work well
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jgmac1106 be neat if they added all the CC licensed blogs
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jgmac1106 https://ccsearch.creativecommons.org/about no text yet, just starting with images, which also makes me think if each img should contain the license to make discovery easier
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[KevinMarks] first post with emoji - do stars count? https://epeus.blogspot.com/2005/04/revisiting-waugh-and-armstrong.html
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[KevinMarks] I think I had an emoji snowman earlier at one point.
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aaronpk Aren't those Unicode not emoji?
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[KevinMarks] hm. They're in a similar range. ★☆ are u+2605 u+2606 ⭐is U+2B50 ☃ is U+2603 but ⛄is U+26C4 - all basic plane, some became colourful later
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[KevinMarks] ☆⭐︎⭒ White star, white medium star, white small star - somehow medium is now gold
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[KevinMarks] Oh weird, that was gold on mac
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[snarfed] aww acegiak's sites are gone. https://acegiak.net/ , http://www.machinespirit.net/
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jamietanna[m] Just weighing into the licencing convo - I'm CC BY-SA NC because there's some stuff I post about that likely could be used. Although code snippets on my site are licenced more liberally so it can be used for commercial usage, the content takes more time so I'd prefer that not being ripped off
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skippy my favorite license: http://drbacchus.com/hjti/
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jamietanna[m] When doing so I wrote about the updates to licensing at https://www.jvt.me/posts/2018/07/29/more-explicit-post-licensing/
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jamietanna[m] Re `rel="licence"` I've got a TODO https://gitlab.com/jamietanna/jvt.me/issues/412 to look at making licencing more specific ie for a single image or for all code snippets
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jgmac1106 I like the chicken dance license
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[KevinMarks] https://platforms.fyi/
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[snarfed] [kevinmarks] threadgoblin, rosegarden, twig, etc there are fictional, right? just checking my understanding. ie this is amusing: https://platforms.fyi/titania/
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[benatwork] Wait, is Rosegarden the Mornington Crescent of social media platforms? If so, that's awesome
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[fluffy] That was a great read.
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[fluffy] ++kevinmarks
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[fluffy] … phooey, I guess prefix increment doesn’t work. For shame. kevinmarks++
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