#indieweb 2019-07-20

2019-07-20 UTC
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jeremycherfas Hello again IndieWeb. Back from a couple of weeks away and wondering how people here are reacting to the news about Zoom. I checked the wiki, and nothing there seems to have changed.
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jamietanna[m] jeremycherfas are you taking about https://thenextweb.com/security/2019/07/09/zoom-security-flaw-could-let-websites-turn-on-your-macs-webcam-without-permission/ and associated news?
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jeremycherfas I am indeed.
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jeremycherfas And wondering whether, after the fixes issued by Apple, people are still happy to use Zoom for many IndieWeb remote events.
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[jgmac1106] We have actual use cases of people asking not to be on Google servers. The Zoom duat up seemed like bad PR around a flaw that was then patched after more bad PR
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sknebel good morning Indieweb!
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sknebel welcome back jeremycherfas!
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jeremycherfas Thanks sknebel.
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jeremycherfas !tell [jgmac1106] I'm not sure what your post means about your view of Zoom today. Can you elucidate.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jgmac1106 meant that me personally am okay with using it, especially since we have community members who have asked their images not be be on Google servers, and because of issues withe recommendation issue
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jgmac1106 Zoomn totally blew their response as a compnay is all I was saying
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jgmac1106 the security bug is patched but the privacy concerns of Google remain
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jgmac1106 though I would also have to assume (total uneducation speculation) that the big video machine learnign databases crawl for all public domain videos any way
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jeremycherfas I see. I'm far less interested in the smoke blowing than I am in the actual impact on my computer and my use of it.
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jgmac1106 that part is fixed, first pushed by Apple and then in a Zoom update
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jgmac1106 another case of reducing all the friction always allows bad stuff to slip through
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jeremycherfas I've got the fixes, so there's that.
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[chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] I'm missing some context about the @TressieMcPhD piece you referenced, but any to read it. Do you still have a link?
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jgmac1106 !tell chrisalrich here you go: https://adanewmedia.org/2015/04/issue7-mcmillancottom/ it is a study of all the comments on her blog the majority of the agression calling her out for “not belonging” among academics
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jgmac1106 also “I have 2,947 blog followers from twenty-four countries in North America, South Asia, Africa, and South America.” people, especially the teacher crowd still follow blogs
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