#indieweb 2019-07-23

2019-07-23 UTC
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[snarfed] GWG: made an "unlisted" category, just a normal WP category. Ultimate Category Excluder plugin hides it from index pages, feeds, search. Noindex Nofollow All Posts plugin adds meta noindex.
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[snarfed] can take followups to #wordpress if you want
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GWG It depends how WordPressy it gets
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GWG It is definitely devy, so I would switch to #wordpress if you want to hear my thoughts
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[snarfed] GWG: the goal here was to _not_ use password- or auth-based private posts (like wordpress's), but approximate them with unlisted posts, which are much more accessible. more in https://indieweb.org/unlisted#Similarity_to_private_posts
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GWG Yes, I think this can be done using a post status
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[tantek] Interesting post by Dries ... on CNN! https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/19/perspectives/internet-privacy-hate-speech/index.html
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[Michael_Beckwit i contend that the internet isn’t necessarily dark, it’s just that humans are, and we enabled those dark humans to connect and communicate just as much as the proverbial “good” ones
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG !tell bear Your SSL certificate expired on the 18th.
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieWeb Goals" https://unicyclic.com/mal/2019-07-23-IndieWeb_Goals
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[tantek] [Michael_Beckwith] the amplification effects are hard to overlook.
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[tantek] !rt https://twitter.com/grantcodes/status/1153311608342482945
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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Zegnat !rt https://twitter.com/grantcodes/status/1153311608342482945
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Loqi Thanks Zegnat and [tantek]! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1153543635519938560
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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[tantek] grantcodes++
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Loqi grantcodes has 9 karma in this channel over the last year (48 in all channels)
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[tantek] Good morning IndieWeb
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[Michael_Beckwit [tantek] definitely. before, it was even more niche and you had at best your community to go based off of, if that at times. The ability to connect, and connect anonymously as well helped expand your social network there
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[Michael_Beckwit but the internet as we know it didn’t cause it, it was just the tool that connected it
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[tantek] depends on what you mean by "it". amplification can cause effects that would never have otherwise happened
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[Michael_Beckwit valid as well
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jamietanna[m] <[Michael_Beckwit "valid as well"> What do you folks think of https://twitter.com/JamieTanna/status/1153420013967237120 ? I'd appreciate a like /retweet if possible, to get a bigger reach
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[Michael_Beckwit RTs over likes. they spread the word
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Zegnat Good read, jamietanna[m]! I would have personally moved the trial new things and personal brand items lower down
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[Michael_Beckwit Basically my official launch/steps into the Indieweb as well can be found at my post here https://trxtp.com/5u
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Zegnat !rt https://twitter.com/JamieTanna/status/1153420013967237120
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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KartikPrabhu !rt https://twitter.com/JamieTanna/status/1153420013967237120
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Loqi Thanks KartikPrabhu and Zegnat! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1153556470094426112
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jamietanna[m] 🙌🏼 Thanks folks
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[Michael_Beckwit if y’all want to RT mine, it can be found at https://twitter.com/tw2113/status/1153531509845848064
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[Michael_Beckwit appreciated 😄
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Zegnat Just reading your post now, [Michael_Beckwit] :)
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Zegnat If you like IndieWeb podcasts, I hear https://jeena.net/pods/17 is worth listening too ;)
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Loqi [Jeena] The IndieWeb - Martijn https://jeena.net/system/pods/photos/000/000/017/original/martijn.jpg?1526323119
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Zegnat s/too/to/
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[Michael_Beckwit bookmarked
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[Michael_Beckwit anyways, bed time for me. 2am
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Zegnat Take care!
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sknebel Good morning!
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Loqi morning!
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://aaronparecki.com/2019/07/23/11/
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sknebel aaronpk: ^^^ accidental submission? Looks wrong and the post already is on indienews
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aaronpk Oh weird
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aaronpk I favorited his post
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aaronpk not sure why that would have caused my site to also syndicate my post to indienews
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jeremycherfas Good morning all
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Zegnat Good morning jeremycherfas!
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[jgmac1106] morning
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Zegnat Also good morning to [jgmac1106]!
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[eddie] !tell aaronpk most people I think syndicate by using a syndication link. Malcolm syndicated via a category. I’m wondering if your site automatically adds categories to its likes from the original source? Then add in auto webmention to any URLs in categories and voila accidentally syndication
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[eddie] But it would only happy when people use indienews as a category rather than a syndication link
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aaronpk Ohhh yeah that's it
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Loqi aaronpk: [eddie] left you a message 2 minutes ago: most people I think syndicate by using a syndication link. Malcolm syndicated via a category. I’m wondering if your site automatically adds categories to its likes from the original source? Then add in auto webmention to any URLs in categories and voila accidentally syndication
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aaronpk Well that's sneaky
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sknebel :D
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aaronpk i guess maybe i shouldn't include categories from the external posts if they are URLs
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[eddie] Yep, seems like a good ide
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[tantek] Wait how do you syndicate to indienews by category?
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[eddie] You “person tag” it and send a webmention
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aaronpk it's worked like that from the very beginning
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[eddie] https://news.indieweb.org/en/submit
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aaronpk i guess that also means I won't be copying person-tags from external posts either, which also seems correct
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aaronpk although that would have been a shortcut for the "aaronpk liked a post you were tagged in" notification
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aaronpk Anybody else noticing much less use of hashtags on twitter lately?
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KartikPrabhu I have a hard time noticing anything on twitter lately
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aaronpk I unfollowed a bunch of people and my timeline is a lot better now so I've been opening it more lately
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KartikPrabhu lol, I only follow 22 people :P
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dietricha shokunin[m]: next SF HWC meetup is tomorrow!
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[tonz] [aaronpk] [kartik_arora1214] I stopped looking at my twitter timeline, only follow Hashtags and search terms in tweetdeck
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shokunin[m]3 Oooo what time and where @dietricha ?
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[davidmead] [aaronpk] I only just noticed they now have a bookmarking feature on Twitter. My consumption has dropped considerably, but yes hashtags don’t seem to be that prevelant
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dietricha shokunin[m]3: https://indieweb.org/events/2019-07-24-homebrew-website-club
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dietricha whoa, there's an HWC meetup in Panjim 😍
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shokunin[m]3 Won’t be available tomorrow night but I’d love to meet another time. Maybe even lunch tomorrow? @tantek @dietricha
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shokunin[m]3 Also @tantek aaronpk we met Ryan at DWeb Camp today and it inspired me to start using Webmentions for our project (Permaweb). I’m a bit confused with webmentions vs activitypub, would love to take a bit of time for a chat
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[schmarty] shokunin: we have a handful of folks that have done (separate) activitypub and webmentions implementations. happy to talk protocols in #indieweb-dev, so feel free to ask away!
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dietricha had no idea about #indieweb-dev...
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[schmarty] dietricha: we have a handful of channels for different topics: https://indieweb.org/discuss#Chat_Channels
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[snarfed] unlisted private pages status update: i've made a number of my photo album pages unlisted, with visible indicators, and moved their links from https://snarfed.org/pictures to a new "private pictures" page. (feel free to guess its url, but please don't post it. 😁)
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[snarfed] all images are robots.txt-blocked, private pages are rel-noindex-ed. pretty happy with the results so far. will wikify. background: https://indieweb.org/unlisted#Similarity_to_private_posts
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[cleverdevil] snarfed++ for pragmatism on private posts!
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Loqi snarfed has 27 karma in this channel over the last year (77 in all channels)
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[tantek] snarfed++ on advancing state of the unlisted arts!
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Loqi snarfed has 28 karma in this channel over the last year (78 in all channels)
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[tantek] (not to be confused with dark arts)
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[tantek] (or defense against)
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[snarfed] dim arts
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[tantek] social media << Perils of outsourcing/delegating it, thread: https://twitter.com/jaredomaramp/status/1153742493034438656
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@jaredomaramp Comms Team signing off... forever: Jared, you are the most disgustingly morally bankrupt person I have ever had the displeasure of working with. You do not care about your constituents. You do not care about anyone but yourself. (twitter.com/_/status/1153742493034438656)
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Loqi ok, I added "Perils of outsourcing/delegating it, thread: https://twitter.com/jaredomaramp/status/1153742493034438656" to the "See Also" section of /social_media https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=63881&oldid=63749
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[tantek] a different kind of POSSEing: https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/SF-running-art-marathon-frida-kahlo-strava-maughan-14114539.php
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[tantek] Lots of gems in this article: https://www.sfgate.com/business/technology/article/The-Latest-Trump-says-US-will-take-a-look-at-14098833.php
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