#indieweb 2019-08-05

2019-08-05 UTC
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[fluffy] [snarfed] oh yeah the reply is absolutely reasonable, it’s just disappointing. I was hoping I could get ersatz private posts by just having the private post threads not discoverable.
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[fluffy] Disqus is trying to build a universal public forum, not a comment embedding system.
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[fluffy] [Lewis_Cowles] and neither of those things. I want it where a thread on a page doesn’t appear as a discoverable thing on another page.
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[Michael_Beckwit one detail I can appreciate about Disqus…they do offer support to sync with your WP install, so you don’t lose them if you don’t want to
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[fluffy] Yeah their import/export is reasonably good.
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[fluffy] I’m getting tempted to just make comments a direct part of Publ. But that opens up another gigantic can of worms.
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[fluffy] Like Publ’s overall design is that what’s checked into your site’s source repository is the ground truth, rather than anything in a database.
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[fluffy] Hm I’ll move this to the dev channel.
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[tantek] 👍
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aaronpk I feel like we need to capture this somewhere... https://xkcd.com/
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aaronpk "Disappearing Sunday Update"
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aaronpk this post will be deleted tomorrow, and won't be in the archives
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aaronpk it says it has a permalink, but the permalink is already 404 https://xkcd.com/2185/
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jacky lol it's a lie
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jacky HA that footer
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jacky > > xkcd.com is best viewed with Netscape Navigator 4.0 or below on a Pentium 3±1 emulated in Javascript on an Apple IIGS
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jacky > at a screen resolution of 1024x1. Please enable your ad blockers, disable high-heat drying, and remove your device
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jacky > from Airplane Mode and set it to Boat Mode. For security reasons, please leave caps lock on while browsing.
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[fluffy] https://alternativeto.net/software/disqus/
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[prtksxna] aaronpk: the permalink is working for me (even though it is already Monday in my timezone 😅)
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aaronpk haha timezones are hard
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aaronpk oh hey the permalink works for me too now
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aaronpk maybe I just caught it too early before
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[prtksxna] nods
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jacky it def 404'd for me before too
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jacky I wonder if it is doing some weird local time then
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jacky s/then/thing
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jacky that'd be kinda cool!
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[prtksxna] I don’t think its a local time thing, because then I shouldn’t have been able to see it 🤔
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[tantek] what is ephemeral
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Loqi Expiring content is content that is only temporarily (ephemerally) relevant, and also part of a larger post, that can and should be (preferably automatically) removed once a particular datetime has passed (the expiration date) https://indieweb.org/ephemeral
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[tantek] ephemeral << http://web.archive.org/web/20190805053112/https://xkcd.com/2185/
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Loqi ok, I added "http://web.archive.org/web/20190805053112/https://xkcd.com/2185/" to the "See Also" section of /expiring_content https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=64127&oldid=62604
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[tantek] aaronpk, need to capture completed
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[tantek] without any blockchain--
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Loqi blockchain has -1 karma over the last year
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[Lewis_Cowles] synonym for impermanent
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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Zegnat Good morning jeremycherfas!
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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[prtksxna] ⛈Morning jeremycherfas
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jeremycherfas Hello [prtksxna]
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sknebel Good morning everyone!
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sknebel Reminder there's a vhwc scheduled for today /cc Rose sebsel
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jeremycherfas Right. Thanks for the reminder sknebel
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[Rose] If I make it it will be a miracle
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[Rose] Unfortunately
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[Rose] I have an essay due tomorrow for my Masters and it's not really close to finished yet unfortunately. Silly "real life" stuff taking precedence over IndieWeb
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jgmac1106 this lookg cool: https://jellyfin.github.io/
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[fluffy] Does loqi not respond to “what is ___ / ___ is foo” pairs in the dev channel? Or is there some magic I need to do to be allowed to do that?
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[schmarty] fluffy: loqi listens in several channels including -dev. might be loqi issues or bridge delays or similar. :/\
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[schmarty] haha oops that bonus backslash makes a duck face.
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jgmac1106 sometimes Loqi can predict the future when they beat the bridge
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sknebel vHWC EU: https://zoom.us/j/4955358768
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[fluffy] [schmarty] the problem turned out to be that the wiki already had the page with the wrong capitalization, which I have fixed with a redirect.
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[fluffy] I mean, just to follow up.
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[schmarty] oh! that is interesting!
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[fluffy] Also I have gotten my site off Disqus!
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[fluffy] I’m using a self-hosted Isso instance now.
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[fluffy] Still trying to figure out how to configure it to give me emailed notifications of new posts though.
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[tantek] woot!
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Loqi woot
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[tantek] fluffy++ for migrating away from Disqus!
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Loqi fluffy has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (24 in all channels)
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[fluffy] I actually got it working this morning but I’m in the middle of a bunch of travel :)
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jacky I should probably use Isso on my new site as well; I have it on my legacy one
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Loqi agreed.
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jacky 😁
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[fluffy] okay wow Isso is flexible. It’s a pain in the butt to configure, but worth it.
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[fluffy] Oops, ran into my first major problem with it: there’s no way to decouple the thread ID from the URL. Guess I have a fun project to work on over the next few days.
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KartikPrabhu what is Isso?
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Loqi isso is a self-hosted commenting server similar to Disqus https://indieweb.org/isso