#indieweb 2019-08-20

2019-08-20 UTC
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boboom hi, i'm just testing chat room out
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mapkyca Hey folks - QQ: is there a mf2 mark-up for PIDs (persistent identifiers)? Particularly thinking about hCard entries for things like ORCiDs, but maybe more flexible for more general things like DOIs and stuff...
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[jgmac1106] mapkyca to continue letes move to dev but I would just use a p-note or p-cateogry now for an h-card
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[jgmac1106] the DID community group put in the final propoal to become a working group and ORCIDs already widely used
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mapkyca Interesting - as a background, with one of my other hats I'm looking at adding a variety of PIDs to resolve to tag a lot of different things, and thinking about using MF markup to provide more flexible syntax around various things and make them machine readable.
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jgmac1106 I left some thoughts in the #channel
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mapkyca Ta... wasn't on that channel...
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jgmac1106 sorry, we just try to leave the main channel free of jargon
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mapkyca No worries!
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jgmac1106 cool timeline display: http://music.ishkur.com/
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[schmarty] Coordinated Inauthentic Behavior is a _fascinating_ term of art.
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[KevinMarks] Brigading
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aaronpk so i've been having this internal battle lately where I feel like posting to my website too often is going to annoy people, so I end up posting stuff in IRC instead.
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aaronpk i've been doing a bunch of home automation hacks over the last couple weeks, and now I'm realizing it would have been nice to have a bunch of in progress notes about it on my website, but instead I was just dropping short updates into various IRC channels as I go
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aaronpk I only have like 2 posts on my site about the progress so far
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aaronpk so maybe I should either make a new place on my site to post even shorter updates than my short notes?
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aaronpk or maybe I should get over myself and not worry about filling up ppls timelines with stuff?
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[schmarty] it's your website!
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[schmarty] (but this is why i have a separate notes website for just-for-me stuff)
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aaronpk it's not even necessarily that I don't want people to see it, which is why i'm posting these in IRC in the first place haha
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[jgmac1106] Aaronpk i often do a ton of short notes and then publish them as a collection
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[jgarber] ☝ per-content type feeds (or h-feeds or what have you), maybe?
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aaronpk yeah I already have the concept of "channels", different paths on my website that show different kinds of things (not restricted to content types)
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Loqi [jgarber], aaronpk: that's a lot of dev jargon! can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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aaronpk oops
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aaronpk it'd mean I need a way for quill to tell my site which channel to post to, which also means another decision to make in the posting interface, which i'm not thrilled about
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aaronpk or, a new interface in quill to post these, which also seems a bit excessive
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[jgmac1106] Or a subdomain... Why i love them
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aaronpk that means switching between accounts in quill which would be a hassle
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[jgmac1106] Can you sort views on your website by hashtag? Hide posts by hashtags from the front page?
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[jgmac1106] I cheated... I did notes, syndicate to twitter, copy and paste the HTML thread to a text editor ans find and replace to add mf2 and CSS
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[jgmac1106] Oops that is devy
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[jgmac1106] I know that hassle... In fact something between Aperture and subdomain messing up Indigenous and Together
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[jgmac1106] Or a wiki... Been having that convo all morning
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[jgarber] chill loqi i’m a user of aaron’s website gosh
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[tantek] aaronpk, this: "not worry about filling up ppls timelines with stuff"
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[tantek] see also adactio.com 🙂
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[tantek] aaronpk, one way to "throttle" that kind of thing (e.g. posting on home automation) is to collect all your notes from the previous day (that you posted to IRC, chat, wherever) on that topic, and integrate them into a *once a day* post in the morning
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[tantek] If people are getting annoyed at you posting a once a day update, that's on them, not you
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[tantek] and to be clear, this is a "collect into a once day post", not a "post every day regardless" encouragment
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[tantek] agree with using a hashtag for it too
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[tantek] that way if people want to mute it they can
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[tantek] i.e. you could use "personal" hashtag like aaronpkhome
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[KevinMarks] Hashtag for routing makes sense. You can set up rules on what goes on main
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[KevinMarks] But don't throttle yourself
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[tantek] what is posting frequency
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "posting frequency" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "posting frequency is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] what is what should I post
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "what should I post" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "what should I post is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] what is what to post
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Loqi A post is either a piece of content or the act of publishing that content (usually in a way that is shared) https://indieweb.org/what_to_post
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[tantek] I feel like this topic has been discussed enough to merit its own page
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] suggestions for names? is /what_to_post good enough or can you come up with a better (simpler? shorter? clearer?) way to express this topic?
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[KevinMarks] Why I write maybe
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[KevinMarks] Orwell callback
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[KevinMarks] http://epeus.blogspot.com/2007/06/unceremonial-writing.html
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[KevinMarks] http://epeus.blogspot.com/2004/01/categorising-blogs.html
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[KevinMarks] Both of which are making me realise how much I miss thta mode of writing instead of tweeting
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[KevinMarks] Or slacking
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[tantek] "Why I Write" sounds too egocentric / narcissistic
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[tantek] or maybe just self-centered. not really want to encourage/amplify navel-gazing
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[tantek] (yeah I'm throwing shade at Orwell)
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lowarago What would be the cheapest way to make your website online? I have a very basic website (only 1 HTML with some CSS and JS), is it possible to have it running online for under $10 (domain name + web hosting) ?
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tomasparks lowarang: upload it to github pages
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lowarago Okay, 1 cool idea! Thanks tomasparks
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[tantek] what is github pages
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Loqi GitHub Pages is a static content hosting service https://indieweb.org/GitHub_Pages
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[tantek] lowarago ^^^ see that for more
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lowarago Will do, thanks +[tantek]!
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[KevinMarks] the essay is worth reading, tantek https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/arts/english/currentstudents/postgraduate/masters/modules/humanrights/why_i_write_orwell.pdf
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[KevinMarks] Orwell was blogging in essay form
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[jgmac1106] If you help two people on Glitch you can use your own Domain (10-15 dollars) and have free hosting in a way
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lowarago Thanks jgmac1106!
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