#indieweb 2019-09-25

2019-09-25 UTC
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[Lewis_Cowles] [tantek] I think it's relatively new (8 commits) https://github.com/psf/community-code-of-conduct
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[Lewis_Cowles] https://github.com/psf/community-code-of-conduct/commits/master shows it's from 2019
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[tantek] I mean compared to the previous one
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[tantek] when they say "updated" clearly they mean updated relative to something non-trivial
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[tantek] likely that repo is only the basis of the current one, not a full history
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[Lewis_Cowles] https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.python.org/psf/conduct/ also shows only this year for the URL so they've made it deliberately hard to find history
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[Lewis_Cowles] It could even be that this is it https://github.com/psf/community-code-of-conduct/commit/e36ae868dc2bf4466e48fb5b4f166e0a20558709 I hope not
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[Lewis_Cowles] https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ actually shows a much deeper history from 2013 - 2019.
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[Lewis_Cowles] older coc changes https://hg.python.org/coc
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[Lewis_Cowles] so it's literally a 2013 version, completely updated for 2019
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[Lewis_Cowles] this was where I found the 2013 version mentioned https://web.archive.org/web/20190823104358/https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ looks like they used to link so people could get a diff
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[jgmac1106] https://beta.deckdeckgo.io/daviddalbusco/introducing-deckdeckgo/?index=3
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jeremycherfas Good morning
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Loqi greetings human
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[Lewis_Cowles] Good morning, greetings and hello 🌞
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GWG_ Morning all
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cambridgeport90[ I was looking at the conversation from last night regarding discovery. I’m sorry I wasn’t more involved. I think we do have a couple of people who put out directories, though.
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GWG_ Directories suggest curation that many won't do
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[grantcodes] Yep, there are also already multiple that exist. The tech / idea isn't the problem, it's getting people on it and or management / curation if necessary.
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[grantcodes] I still think a specialized microsub "client "is the way to go. It wouldn't be a reader per se, but whoever signs up could allow their content to analyzed in some way. The base part of that is not so difficult, but I wouldn't know how to start analyzing what is popular & what to recommend etc. etc. Also privacy would be a thing...
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[jgmac1106] you make it opt in, you log in for first time, decide what post types to share. discovery works on first and second degree, friends and then friends of friends, based on number of likes, replies, and mentions
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[grantcodes] Easier said than done. At least with my own knowledge!
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[jgmac1106] ohh yes ideas are easy implementation hard
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[grantcodes] But I think that is the way to go for sure!
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[jgmac1106] I will work it into the next grant application to get denied
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[grantcodes] 👍
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[grantcodes] I think I might apply to that web monetization one when it comes out too. It's actually kind of interesting in a reader as that is a valid reason why some people / companies don't like rss or other readers. No direct views = no ads = no money. But maybe the monetization api can help solve that
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[jgmac1106] well if someone or something is indexing you know how stuff spreads I Guess. I liked when software just cost one price, even if annual
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[jgmac1106] all the subscriptions...5 dollars here, 10 there, I am done
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] consider adding your ideas on discovery to /discovery#Brainstorming *before* you work them into grant applications, so you can get help from the community with iterating / revising them
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[jgmac1106] I don't know the tech, any of my ideas don't even make the threshold of vaporware, but will jot them down
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] others have no idea where to start, or what to implement, but may be able to implement an idea they read about
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[grantcodes] There's already a little bit at https://indieweb.org/recommendation_engine#Brainstorming
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[tantek] yeah, the user-centric discovery aspects of that Brainstorming should probably be moved to /discovery#Brainstorming
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[tantek] since a "recommendation engine" is just one means to discovery. it's plumbing, not the end goal
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aaronpk Oh hey own your gram squeaked out a few images for an hour or two
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[snarfed] 😂 😭 this is what we've sunk to
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[schmarty] #groanyourgram
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aaronpk [schmarty]: nooooo
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[tantek] brings new meaning to "slow web"
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[tantek] also schmarty++
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Loqi schmarty has 9 karma in this channel over the last year (68 in all channels)
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[schmarty] 😂
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[dougbeal] aaronpk: I managed to get my backlog posted over the weekend.
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aaronpk [dougbeal]: From own your gram or some other way?
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[dougbeal] [aaronpk] From OwnYourGram
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aaronpk Cool. Looks like I need to further tune it to stay under the radar. At least it's not 100% blocked tho
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[schmarty] what are thanks?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "thanks" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "thanks is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[schmarty] what is thank?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "thank" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "thank is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[schmarty] this feels relevant but i am not sure how to frame it for the wiki: https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/09/25/thanks-for-the-thank-examining-the-efficacy-of-wikipedias-thanks-feature/
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[jgmac1106] idorsements maybe? I know Jess Klein pushed for badges and thank yous at wikimedia
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[tantek] that opening sentence though 🙄
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[jgmac1106] yes....nerdy jargon to exclude the many
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aaronpk now that my posts I makewhile on a plane link to the flight post on my website, I wonder if I should send webmentions to the flight post so they all appear on the flight
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[tantek] in Swarm, specific Flight numbers are venues, so you could use your Flight posts as venues as well, and "location tag" your posts you make on the plane with that flight-post-as-venue
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[tantek] unnecessary capitalization of Flight
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aaronpk that's what I do but from my itinerary instead of swarm checkins
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aaronpk e.g. https://aaronparecki.com/2019/09/25/31/
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Spinach and Feta Ravioli
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aaronpk which has a location of "United Flight 944 ORD to FRA" that links to https://aaronparecki.com/2019/09/25/2/
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Portland to Chicago, Chicago to Frankfurt https://aaronparecki.com/2019/09/25/2/map.png
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[tantek] that feels like a loss of precision for that example
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aaronpk it's a summary essentially
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[tantek] I mean you ate the Spinach and Feta Ravioli on *one* of those specific flights
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aaronpk it does say the specific flight in the post, it just links to the whole trip
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aaronpk I guess I could use a fragment link? the individual flight leg doesn't have its own URL
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[tantek] hmm perhaps that's the disconnect, since the individual flight leg *does* have its own checkin in Swarm
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[tantek] (and thus its own URL etc.)
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aaronpk I don't actually check in to flights on swarm tho
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