#indieweb 2019-10-14

2019-10-14 UTC
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[tantek] jjdelc++ awesome and welcome!!! ugram++
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Loqi ugram has 1 karma over the last year
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Loqi jjdelc has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
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[tantek] actually, Microgram++
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Loqi Microgram has 1 karma over the last year
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[tantek] what is Microgram
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Loqi Microgram is an extension to micro.blog to show photos in an instagram like photos page https://github.com/cleverdevil/microgram https://indieweb.org/Microgram
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[tantek] wat
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KartikPrabhu ruh roh!
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[tantek] name collision! 😂
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[tantek] jacky, re: "world locked in so tightly (mentally) to their platform, no one can envision themselves outside of it", *NOW* do you get why I put that particular Matrix image at the top of the /silos page?
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[tantek] "most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system [of silos] that they will fight to protect it"
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petermolnar a few days ago I've learnt that instagram allows uploads from "desktop" if someone pulls up dev tools and sets the device to iphone. I wonder if 2001 M$ called them to congratulate on pulling an IE6.
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beko[m] Is anyone of you posting "recall" posts? Like throwback photos? And if so do you use any specific post kind? https://indieweb.org/posts#Kinds_of_Posts
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[grantcodes] what is memory?
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[grantcodes] what is on this day?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "memory" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "memory is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Loqi on this day is a feature on some silos and indieweb sites which show posts published on the current (typically Gregorian) day of the year in previous years; commons sites tend to show more general historical events that occurred on that same day https://indieweb.org/on_this_day
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[grantcodes] I think there are some examples there
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beko[m] Thanks, that's a good start 👍️
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[Rose] Do we want to redirect memory to on this day?
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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jeremycherfas I think as redirect from memories would be less likely to be confusing, but might not serve the intended purpose.
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[jgmac1106] I can't remember what we decided Rose
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[jgmac1106] And I was going for a bad pun
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[Rose] We could also do "Memories might also be known as "On This Day{link}".
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beko[m] …no opinion on this. Not a native speaker 🙂
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[Rose] What is disambiguation?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "disambiguation" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "disambiguation is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[Rose] Darn it Loqi, that's unhelpful
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[tonz] @beko[m] I have an ‘on this day in…’ widget in my blog’s sidebar on the front page, and on a separate page. Using a small WordPress plugin by Alan Levine / cogdogblog https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2019/01/adding-an-on-this-blog-today-in-widget/
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[xavierroy] Post kinds supports on this day feature... though it is not highlighted
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[xavierroy] try /onthisday/10/14 on your site
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beko[m] Now that's interesting. Where does this come from? 🙂
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beko[m] [tonz]: also interesting, ty
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[Rose] The WordPress Post Kinds plugin
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[Rose] I would like to do a better job of displaying that in my new theme
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[jgmac1106] I need to get back to trying rp migrate twitter and WordPress to get all my days. I also like the then and now photos Google Photos do
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[tonz] interesting, while I use Post Kinds, /onthisday/ urls result in 404s.
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beko[m] It needs a month/day :)
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beko[m] this is gorgeous. reading up on my own article how I tried to get DSL in 2007 😆
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[tonz] I know, that’s what gives 404s, although there should be posts for e.g. 10/14
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[jgmac1106] Didn't work for me as well ton
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[tonz] is it because I don’t normally add days in my url structure? Only the month.
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beko[m] 🤔 hmm
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[jgmac1106] Does work for me. I had typo https://archive.jgregorymcverry.com/onthisday/10/14/
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[tonz] turns out it works for me to, looking at browser history to see what went wrong
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[jgmac1106] And I learn I am backing up my quicktthoughts to my WP archive... Might accidentally like this. WP search a bit better
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[dougbeal] Good morning indieweb
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[jgmac1106] Article from a tweet in meta https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/12/blogging-twenty-five-years-old-all-grown-up
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gRegorLove Howdy indieweb
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[tantek] hello gRegorLove and thanks much for all your recent IWC wikifying of session notes!!!
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gRegorLove yw
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dougbeal|mb1 Hi-De-Ho gRegorLove
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gRegorLove hi-de-ho, neighbor
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[dmitshur] @Shokunin re iPad and Google Voice: yeah I’m happy with GV. It’s free, works well, nice and clean UI. I don’t use my phone much, so I just wanted something easy that works when I can’t use FaceTime audio etc.
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[tantek] anyone know if Google is keeping MP3 archives of all GV calls?
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[tantek] (or in any other audio format)
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ShokuninDiscord[ I believe they save it for themselves, don't think for you though
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[tantek] yeah that's what I was worried about. future AI (ab)use
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[jgmac1106] https://policies.google.com/technologies/voice?hl=en-US
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[KevinMarks] They have the voicemails, not all calls, though there was a record option
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[jgmac1106] Yes. If you choose record Google has copy of that. If you use a VPN I think record isn't available as you can't....not sure... determines if you are in a two party state (USA law varoes by state)
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[jgmac1106] Events would be a fun thing to start exploring discovery with.
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[tantek] Anyone here have a tag cloud on their site? (re-asking here from dev since it's a user feature and there are more people here 🙂 )
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[KevinMarks] Found one https://web.archive.org/web/20060615211403/http://www.technorati.com/profile/kevinmarks/4557/ed7d66b6fa23019e58ce6c821070ef0f
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gRegorLove Next Events: IndieWebCamp Brighton https://indieweb.org/next-iwc, Homebrew Website Club Meetup https://indieweb.org/next-hwc, Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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ShokuninDiscord[ Whoa tag clouds. Haven't seen those since 2005
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ShokuninDiscord[ They used to be so cool
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[jgmac1106] Not #IndieWeb community examples but they are used heavily in education blogs , especially WordPress bc plugins exist.
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[jgmac1106] Tag clouds are kind of a subgenre of qualitative research
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ShokuninDiscord[ I surrender
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ShokuninDiscord[ Looks like there's no alternative to Google Voice yet that does sms, calls via web