#indieweb 2019-10-15
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[tantek] wow this is blowing up today: https://twitter.com/hashtag/DeleteFacebook
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cambridgeport90[ I would love to do that. The problem is I can’t. Too many people that I care about still use it, and it’s the only place that they apparently find things worth sharing.
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# [snarfed] cambridgeport90: purging is an intermediate step that lets you keep your account. https://indieweb.org/silo-quits#Purging_Rather_Than_Quitting , https://snarfed.org/2019-01-08_goodbye-facebook-goodbye-google
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# ShokuninDiscord[ Alright, I did all my research, and I caved
# ShokuninDiscord[ I'm now a user of line2.com
# ShokuninDiscord[ It's basically Google Voice, but not Google, but you pay $8.50 a month for it
# ShokuninDiscord[ The upside is you can have multiple numbers, and there's desktop apps
# ShokuninDiscord[ There's no web client though, but I prefer having a desktop app over web if I have to make a choice
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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petermolnar https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21255819 `"Walled suburb" is a brilliant description of content platforms. `
# petermolnar alternative naming for silos
# jeremycherfas Except that a lot of people would like to live in a walled suburb, more than want to live in a silo. Too positive a framing for my taste.
# petermolnar there are many, too many people out there, who, even without realizing, would prefer a totalitarian, but nicely painted system
# petermolnar walled suburb is, unfortunately, a good description. It's uniform, it looks nice, it tells you they are nice, but in reality, it's closed, it's always the same, it's probably really boring, and everyone is watching the other
# jeremycherfas I think that's a better, expanded version of what I said. :)
# petermolnar partially; what I meant to say was there are people who we - indieweb - will never be able to touch with the mentality, in my opinion
# petermolnar so silo vs walled suburb vs domed cities (in context of `The City and the Stars` by Arthur C. Clarke) etc - doesn't matter. Some will always see the domed city as salvation and never want to do anyhing about it.
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# jeremycherfas Agreed in full.
# petermolnar sci-fi analogies imo:
# petermolnar Twitter is Thunderdome, Mad Max context: you are in a cage, locked in with mad people to entertain others
# petermolnar Facebook is Diaspar, `City and the Stars` context: nobody remembers why they are there, and are certain there's nothing beyond the walls
# petermolnar I'll think about the rest
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[KevinMarks] "gated Community" is the US name for this
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# jeremycherfas Couldn't a gated community be somewhat urban?
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[jgmac1106] ohh if it is a rural gated community, then it is a compound...people in the woods don't share walls they build their own
# [jgmac1106] gated communities are urban, its how the rich ensure they hand with other rich and white folk
# [jgmac1106] hang*
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# [jgmac1106] I do like the metaphor in terms of things being the same
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# [KevinMarks] That was a culture shock in california - no public swimming pools, only neighbourhood association ones that could keep out non-White people.
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# [KevinMarks] This is an important critique of data science that has an own your data theme https://reallifemag.com/counting-the-countless/
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# ShokuninDiscord[ Morning!
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# ShokuninDiscord[ Just ordered a data only sim from Freedompop
# ShokuninDiscord[ Which will combine with my line2 virtual phone
# ShokuninDiscord[ No need for a phone with cellular anymore 😆
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[dougbeal] Yay, webcal://hwc.dougbeal.com/event/index.ics is alive but not linked yet.
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieWebCamp NYC 2019 Wrap-Up" https://martymcgui.re/2019/10/10/indiewebcamp-nyc-2019-wrap-up/
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# Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieWebCamp NYC 2019 photos and some lessons learned" https://martymcgui.re/2019/10/15/indiewebcamp-nyc-2019-photos-and-some-lessons-learned/
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[schmarty] gotta run, but this was fun! my long IWCNYC photo+videos post has all those photos marked up u-photo (probably wrong? please correct me in dev if so!) so it showed up on my original post as a mention with a ton of photos
# [schmarty] so i did a quick and dirty (will break on other counts of photos) preview with the first 3 images and a "+22" count that links to the original post.
# [schmarty] thanks facebook for the inspiration: https://martymcgui.re/2019/10/10/indiewebcamp-nyc-2019-wrap-up/#comment-6c11cc2fc1873ee254cf41e6bbdee131326a76f0
# Loqi [Marty McGuire] I’m pretty terrible about doing post-event write-ups. Thankfully as a co-organizer for the recent IndieWebCamp NYC, I helped assembled a “thanks for coming” email which became a wrap-up post for the event. In honor of the IndieWeb in Practice s... https://res.cloudinary.com/schmarty/image/fetch/w_480,c_fill/https://media.martymcgui.re/f0/75/ba/75/6350c0fcac2f4135b3884c37498bcc80cac7db5900b4cb2e5f8fd9ca.jpg
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