#indieweb 2019-10-24

2019-10-24 UTC
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Correctly using bookmarks (instead of reposts)" https://www.jvt.me/mf2/2019/06/oayga/
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aaronpk Who was it that made the comment about the swarm comments on my checkins this weekend?
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aaronpk I've been thinking about it and I think I'm going to find a way to filter them. I like some of them, like the "8 weeks at coffee shops" and such, but a lot of them are noise and I ignore them
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aaronpk Since they're coming in as webmentions, that means I'm gonna need a solution that lets me filter incoming webmentions, which sounds a lot like how I'd be dealing with spam
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[Rose] Tantek
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[Rose] I would also be interested a way of filtering Swarm webmentions
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aaronpk Tantek has bigger problems hehe
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[Rose] I think he did bring up swarm comments though
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sknebel we talked about them sunday evening
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sebsel yea, I was looking into my webmentions log, and it seems like you mention me a lot. Swarm checking with tag -> pesos to post with tag -> webmention on your post -> I get a webmention for each update / received webmention.
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sebsel That is just salmention, right?
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sebsel Yea I should deduplicate them either way. But it's another aspect of it
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sebsel btw it will effect your coin count ;)
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[frank] I have questions on how to use the new Mastodon support in Brid.gy with WordPress. I do some trial and error that seem to work but still have some doubts how to some specific things. Comments/webmentions are welcome on https://diggingthedigital.com/how-do-i-posse-to-mastodon-now/
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[frank] Forgot to mention [snarfed] here but the webmention is on his site as well 😉
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GWG Someone did it I think yesterday
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[jeremycherfas] One of the reasons I use WP for my podcast; most of the time, it just works.
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GWG It's the same reason I like Android
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GWG You can set it up and it works..or customize it extensively
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GWG I attribute the Microformats problems we have to a core design decision years ago that is hard to change now
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jeremycherfas Hello IndieWeb
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sebsel Hello jeremycherfas :)
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jeremycherfas Still on your week off of hard work?
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sebsel I get nothing done at all. I do read a lot about stuff. Now looking into how Hugo works.
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jeremycherfas Still, that's interesting.
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sebsel The CLI is so fast, I keep thinking it errored out.
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[jgmac1106] I am doing that for my son, mainly because I fall behind
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[jgmac1106] why not start with owning your data...https://twitter.com/mozillafestival/status/1187346183938859010 not sure I believe in these monetization schemes
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@mozillafestival Tonight, 6:30pm at #MozFest House! https://twitter.com/streamr/status/1186972312970641408 (twitter.com/_/status/1187346183938859010)
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[snarfed] [frank] looks like you have bridgy publish for mastodon working! so your only remaining q is the title vs contents? see https://brid.gy/about#microformats
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[snarfed] short answer: if you omit the title or leave it blank in your wp post, bridgy should publish the full contents (or at least first 500 chars)
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[jgmac1106] my current workflow has to be add a show in mf2, get rss from granary, copy the xml file, add in missing size and duration variables, ftp the xml file...oops not in dev
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[frank] [snarfed] Not quite. How do I get it working without having to include the target URL in my WP post? I could use the Syndication Links plugin from [dshanske] but I don't know what to fill in the settings of the additional Custom Providers.
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[tantek] What is TikTok
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Loqi TikTok is a video sharing app similar to Vine, where users create and share short videos, often set to music https://indieweb.org/TikTok
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[tantek] TikTok << Criticism: Avoid visiting, installing, using, and delete all content & apps if you already did unless you want to possibly/likely have Chinese State Intelligence tracking your device & activities: https://twitter.com/senschumer/status/1187386699170701313
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@SenSchumer TikTok's been downloaded OVER 110M TIMES in the US It’s owned by a Beijing-based tech company It's required to adhere to Chinese law That means it can be compelled to cooperate with intelligence work controlled by China's Communist Party https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/10/24/tiktok-raises-national-security-concerns-congress-schumer-cotton-ask-federal-review/ (twitter.com/_/status/1187386699170701313)
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism: Avoid visiting, installing, using, and delete all content & apps if you already did unless you want to possibly/likely have Chinese State Intelligence tracking your device & activities: https://twitter.com/senschumer/status/1187386699170701313" to the "See Also" section of /TikTok https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=65867&oldid=63624
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[jgmac1106] !tell tonz I can't find a source of my stat, going to stop using it until I do, but thanks as I went through and added more tags and bookmarked more sources as I search. will ask on misinfocon listservs
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[snarfed] [frank] by target URL, you mean https://brid.gy/publish/mastodon ? ie https://brid.gy/about#publish-backlink ? it's a necessary security measure, to indicate that you (the site owner) really do intend to POSSE the post. you can leave the text blank so it's invisible if you want!
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[snarfed] if you have wordpress-specific questions, they're probably best for #indieweb-wordpress and GWG
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[tantek] does anyone here use TikTok or have an account
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[tantek] I should say does anyone <!here> use TikTok?
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[xavierroy] I have the app but haven't signed up yet
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[tantek] I was hoping to get help documenting How to Export and How to Delete
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[frank] [snarfed] I just saw a screenshot in #indieweb-wordpress that explains the settings. I'm gonna test it.
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[frank] The thing is, because of all the different plugins and services by different people, a good explanation how they work together is lacking. Most explanations are very general, because the plug-in or service (like bridgy) can connect on various levels and on different systems. For me it's a puzzle to find out how it all works together. So I can explain it to others as well.
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[snarfed] heh, sure. ok! understood. it's definitely on me to document and explain bridgy itself, but i don't personally connect it to specific individual CMSes (like WP), or document how. thanks for trying!
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[snarfed] others have done that in the past too, pretty comprehensively, eg [chrisaldrich] (for WP)
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jbove what is twtxt
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "twtxt" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "twtxt is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jbove twtxt is a decentralised, minimalist microblogging service for hackers. Website: https://twtxt.readthedocs.io/en/stable/index.html
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Loqi ok
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[tantek] is anyone here using it?
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jbove Just discovered it through Dave Bucklin's website: https://davebucklin.com/about.html
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Loqi Dave Bucklin
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jbove See his feed here: https://davebucklin.com/twtxt.txt
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[tantek] if you could, it would be great to add its connection/relevance to IndieWeb people and or principles to the dfn and perhaps expand later in the page with Examples
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jbove Since I've dug myself a gopher hole I came across a lot of cool text-only applications
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jbove tantek: will do
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[tantek] thank you!
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[tantek] what is text first
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Loqi Text-first design refers to the practice of designing information and UIs so they are readable/usable/actionable at least as basic plain text https://indieweb.org/text-first
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[tantek] jbove you may be interested in that as well ^^^
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jbove checked and reading - thanks!
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