#indieweb 2019-10-25

2019-10-25 UTC
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[Michael_Beckwit no on tiktok here. my life isn't interesting enough for video 😄
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[chrisbergr] I used Vine. Had no motivation to use tiktok now. The same was the case with gowalla vs foursquare. The only reason why I use Swarm now is OwnYourSwarm, but I always forget to check in.
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dansup pixelfed is working on a Vine like feature called Loops! https://pixelfed.social/discover/loops
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[frank] [neil] Thanks for your replies on my blogpost. Did you send out webmentions to my site? I don't see anything in my queue.
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[Rose] Bringing in the promotion/POSSE/PESOS connversation from #indieweb-chat \
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[Rose] [sebsel] generally I want just the one note to “promote” the article, not every article, but it’s crafted to show off something in it.
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[Rose] Sometimes things will get posted about multiple times.
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aaronpk hm yeah I've definitely posted a note about a blog post. Usually it includes more than just the name of the post, so I post it as a separate note which is often syndicated to other places
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[Rose] Do you also syndicate the article title+url automatically in those cases?
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aaronpk no I almost never syndicate an article by itself
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[Rose] I definitely do, but that’s because some of these posts are the kind you can do that with
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sebsel this also hooks into webmentions-as-twitter-likes: that pattern only works if you syndicate the article as a tweet, of if you make a separate syndicated note post about it, then the likes go to that note page (or does bridgy translate? you have a lot of twitter likes aaron)
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[Rose] Good point, do you link the article to the note Aaron?
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[Rose] Because I would definitely consider the note to be an extension of the article, and would want feedback to come to the article, not the note.
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sebsel https://aaronparecki.com/2019/09/30/3/unlisted-posts lol this one has a lot of likes and even retweets, but they are all indieweb native and/or activitypub
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sebsel this is an example: https://aaronparecki.com/2019/07/18/17/adding-identity-to-xyz
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Adding Identity to OAuth XYZ
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sebsel Bridgy does translate
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aaronpk Bridgy does that arguably incorrectly, at least for how I want it to work
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aaronpk bridgy sees the link to my article in my posse note, and then includes the article in the bridgy page for the webmention
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aaronpk whereas I've explicitly said that my note is this tweet, not the article is this tweet
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aaronpk So I end up with the webmentions sent to both the article and the note on my site
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aaronpk It's particularly weird when this happens with my named undated pages like my "now" page, because every time I mention it in a tweet, the responses to the tweet are sent to the page
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[Rose] Hmmm, seems like something that should be fixable
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aaronpk Well the problem is it's how bridgy does original post discovery too
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aaronpk Anyway the relevance to this conversation is that my intent is to treat the notes separately from the articles. I don't consider them the same post as the article when posseing
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[Rose] Which I suspect also feeds into what you show on sites like micro.blog and the feeds available for subscription?
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aaronpk Hmm. I think micro.blog shows both, and so does my home page
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[Rose] Welcome [Sebastian_Grassl]!
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[Sebastian_Grass Hej!
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GWG Morning
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Loqi rise and shine!
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb Interesting scrollback. I do write notes about articles and syndicate them, but only from one of my sites to an article on another site. I think the feedback is doing what I expect.
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[jgmac1106] kevinmarks++ for the noterlive convo from #redecentralize
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Loqi kevinmarks has 9 karma in this channel over the last year (45 in all channels)
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[tantek] hey y'all, just gave a lightning talk at Redecentralize and posted summary & links: https://tantek.com/2019/298/t1/lightning-talk-redecentralize-rdc19
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] Gave a 3min lightning talk @redecentralize #rdc19, show > tell. #redecentralize links shown & words spoken from memory: * Started with: https://tantek.com/ Hi my name is Tantek, the .com is silent. I’m @t on Twitter when not blocked. I have bee...
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[tantek] suggestion: turn RSVPs into p-attendee inline in indie events and convert them to ATTENDEE in the ICS
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GWG Interesting
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GWG If I start going to more events as I have... events and RSVPs may get bumped up on my development list
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GWG I need to update my lis5
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GWG list
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[jgmac1106] tantek but then you have to separate shows and no-shows, be neat (though no idea how magic would work)..if RSVP checks into venue their RSVP turns into p-attendee
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GWG Good morning, [jgmac1106]
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[jgmac1106] morning gwg
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GWG Any exciting Indieweb themed plans for the coming weekend?
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[Rose] Not injuring myself further so I can actually do IndieWeb stuff seems like a good step 1
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[Rose] Maybe step 0, depends how you’re counting
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[jgmac1106] well its mozfest, can't be there but working on this https:.//goifnetwork.org to hopefully lead to an IWC Accra in February
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[jgmac1106] https://goifnetwork.org
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GWG Bit far for me to go, but I would remote
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GWG [Rose]: Try to stay safe.
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GWG I still want to finish Simple Location 4.0...and yes, [jgmac1106], I know it isn't simple
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[jgmac1106] and I want update my podcast feeds, get them registered...
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[jgmac1106] I know GWG, why I like it, like calling a really big person "Tiny" as a nickname
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GWG It just was going to be a much smaller update before I got into the weeds, as if often the case with me
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GWG I wonder if anyone wants sunrise and sunset on their website.
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[jgmac1106] some may for cute little easter eggs, but it is edge case, I think your reasoning for Sabbat would be the most common
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[jgmac1106] You could do prayer times for Islam as well as those are based on the sun
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cweiske i'm using sunraise/sunset to change my stylesheet
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cweiske http://cweiske.de/home_stylesheet.htm
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I might need a PR for that
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GWG cweiske: Do you adjust for current location and elevation?
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cweiske no, it's always my home address that matters
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GWG I am writing it so it will be based on my last reported location
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GWG Which is defined as the last place I posted from
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GWG I am spending more time outside of GMT-4/5 of late
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petermolnar adactio++ for having a dark theme which works with FF on linux
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Loqi adactio has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (13 in all channels)
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[tantek] what is dark mode
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Loqi dark mode is a feature of websites and apps that change the color scheme to be easier to read at night or in low light settings https://indieweb.org/dark_mode
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[snarfed] re notes that "promote" articles, bridgy will backfeed to both if you include the same syndication link in both (cc sebsel [Rose])
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[snarfed] and yes [aaronpk] is right, bridgy is "promiscuous" in that it interprets any tweet (etc) that links to the post as its POSSEd post. this is an intentional compromise, and definitely not perfect
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[snarfed] https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/241 is one opt-in answer to it. i'm open to merging PRs for it!
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Loqi [voxpelli] #241 Option for forcing strict original post discovery
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[jgmac1106] snarfed what do I have to do after I syndicated a note with Bridgy and want to syndicate a reply to that note but reply to the note and note the Tweet?
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[jgmac1106] after syndication I have tried to remember to go back and switch the u-syndication back to Twitter rather than to the rel=canonical https://jgregorymcverry.com/notes/2019-10-15-4
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Loqi This is so awesome! Got GitHub actions working and this should be first note I push live instantly by saving in my text editor....bad news I wrote over my repo trying to get all my different local versions on point.
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[snarfed] [jgmac1106] just u-in-reply-to your original note. bridgy publish will see its synd link and automatically POSSE a twitter reply
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Loqi [jgmac1106], [snarfed]: can you move the tech talk to #indieweb-dev to keep this channel more inclusive and inviting?
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[jgmac1106] not* the Tweet
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[snarfed] Loqi: hmm. maybe? this is a use case
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[snarfed] [jgmac1106] last line of https://brid.gy/about#reply
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[jgmac1106] !loqi tell jgmac1106 to shut down chat and get back to work
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[jgmac1106] !tell jgmac1106 to shut down chat and get back to work
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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throw_ Can somebody point out the problem with this JSON object?
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throw_ {"webUserId":"1","userEmail":"mattistrees@gmail.com","userPassword":"B00gnish","image":"","birthday":"06/01/1989","membershipFee":"$0.00","userRoleId":"1","userRoleType":"ADMIN","errorMsg":""}
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throw_ SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 8 column 1 of the JSON data
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throw_ is it the empty strings?
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throw_ im trying to send a var with that data to JSON.parse
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[snarfed] throw_: => #indieweb-dev
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[snarfed] answered you there
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