#indieweb 2019-10-30

2019-10-30 UTC
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[jgmac1106]
in that thread discovered this. I love Rebecca Blood's work: http://www.rebeccablood.net/handbook/excerpts/weblog_ethics.html
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[tantek]
what is a blog
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Loqi
blog is a top-level domain owned by Automattic that is well integrated with WordPress.com, but allows other software to be used https://indieweb.org/.blog
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[jgmac1106]
what is blogging?
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Loqi
Blogging is the practice of writing and publishing posts on a website (blog), typically articles, and typically publicly available at a permalink on a personal site https://indieweb.org/blogging
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[tantek]
blog << blogging
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[tantek]
blogging << blog
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aleph-
Huh, larger then I expected. Nifty.
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "Publ v0.5.7, now with theoretical AutoAuth support!" http://publ.beesbuzz.biz/blog/269-Publ-v0-5-7-now-with-theoretical-AutoAuth-support
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[jeremycherfas]
Rebecca’s book turbocharged my efforts to produce a timely website.
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[jgmac1106]
Mornign All
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[JHSheridan]
hi everyone... just wanted to let you all know I officially launched my indieweb site yesterday with this post: https://www.jhsheridan.com/officially-indieweb/
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[xavierroy]
JHSheidan++
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Loqi
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[JHSheridan]
thanks to everyone for the help while I was building it. This is a great community!
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[grantcodes]
JHSheridan++
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Loqi
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[grantcodes]
What is the list of locations on the side? Past (I guess) or maybe future?
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[JHSheridan]
the top one is where I am now
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[JHSheridan]
the one's below it are where I was just before
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[JHSheridan]
so top=current and below=past in order of most recent
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[grantcodes]
Yep, that's what I thought. Do you just manually update it when you move?
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[JHSheridan]
That's what I'm doing right now... thought of a few ways I could automate it, but for now I was just focused on getting the site up and working
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[grantcodes]
Makes sense 🙂
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[xavierroy]
maybe you can ask [dshanske] to add a list of recent locations in his simple location plugin and use it to display 🙂
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GWG
Morning
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Loqi
guten morgen
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GWG
[JHSheridan], [xavierroy]: Interesting idea
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[jgmac1106]
Just heard Prez Obama's criticism of Woke Twitter on my drive in. Someone should look for a canonical link and add to Twitter page. It was great
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[KevinMarks]
Silos << “they absolutely have a cost: the cost is complexity, outsourced agency, and brittleness. The cost of ownership is up front and visible; the cost of access is back-dated and hidden.” https://alexdanco.com/2019/10/26/everything-is-amazing-but-nothing-is-ours/
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Loqi
ok, I added "“they absolutely have a cost: the cost is complexity, outsourced agency, and brittleness. The cost of ownership is up front and visible; the cost of access is back-dated and hidden.” https://alexdanco.com/2019/10/26/everything-is-amazing-but-nothing-is-ours/" to the "See Also" section of /silo https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=66022&oldid=64595
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[KevinMarks]
static << “ years ago websites were made of files; now they are made of dependencies.” https://onezero.medium.com/the-death-of-the-computer-file-doc-43cb028c0506
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Loqi
ok, I added "“ years ago websites were made of files; now they are made of dependencies.” https://onezero.medium.com/the-death-of-the-computer-file-doc-43cb028c0506" to the "See Also" section of /static_site https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=66023&oldid=60795
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
Hello 👋
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
I prefer how most people share links or bookmarks when you leave your personal opinion on the bottom. That’s how I want to display them, original context on top and my comment at the bottom, it may look very similar to my replies. https://ramiroruiz.com/replies/19/1029213410/
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
is there’s something I’m not seeing in why I should use the twitter order instead?
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
I’m in the process of adding reposts on my site but I wanted to hear some opinions of how I will display them.
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
I’ve never liked how Twitter does it, comment first then the retweet / repost. I don’t like the order, it makes me past the first comment to read the retweet and now that I have some context, read the comment.
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Loqi
[Ramiro Ruiz] Never ending story for me. It took me forever to publish personal stuff, till recently, I just started to ship bit by bit and accepted that my site will always be a WIP.
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aaronpk
If you're including your own text in the post then it's not a repost
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aaronpk
then it's just a post that includes a link to another post, which you may display the full or partial contents of
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
🤔 you’re right. So it will be another note 📝
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
Now I see, I miss this part https://indieweb.org/repost#Challenges so I will treat them as another post with a quoting category
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[tantek]
what is a quote
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Loqi
A quotation is a type of response post that is primarily a subset of the contents of another post, and often has a citation of that other post https://indieweb.org/quote
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[tantek]
or that ^^^
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Loqi
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[snarfed]
wow yeah. really interesting how we now have two starkly contrasting approaches
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[tonz]
maybe that’s exactly the reason Twitter does this, for contrast w FB. Given the scrutiny these platforms are getting
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Loqi
[tonz]: [jgmac1106] left you a message 6 days, 5 hours ago: I can't find a source of my stat, going to stop using it until I do, but thanks as I went through and added more tags and bookmarked more sources as I search. will ask on misinfocon listservs
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aaronpk
It will be interesting to see how they define "Political advertising"
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aaronpk
in practice I mean
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[qubyte]
wow
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[qubyte]
yeah
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[qubyte]
I have questions
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[tantek]
indeed. the one I'm concerned about is whether they will get caught up in the claptrap about various scientific things being "political", e.g. climate change, evolution, air & water quality etc.
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[qubyte]
That’s what’s ringing my alarm bell. Almost anything _could_ be cast as political.
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[qubyte]
So you may wind up limited to adverts bought by lobbies and political parties.
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[qubyte]
Still fraught.
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[qubyte]
To be clear, I think it’s a good thing to explore. It’s just going to be tough to figure out.
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jacky
aaronpk: precisely
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@evacide
Do we need a reminder that every policy comes down to how well it is implemented? Well, here it is. https://twitter.com/ddddarby/status/1189637248343429120
(twitter.com/_/status/1189649189220712449)
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[qubyte]
If we could just ban Dominic Cummings from everything politics here in the UK would improve dramatically overnight.
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milkii
^
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[snarfed]
probably #indieweb-chat
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[qubyte]
My bad 🙂
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jamietanna[m]
Does anyone have contact details for barryfrost?
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jamietanna[m]
uploaded an image: 2019-10-30-222725_1650x1750_scrot.png (106KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/FcyovaYSIXgqJdszIbhzUClC >
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jamietanna[m]
I somehow am logged in as him on micropublish.net and am concerned as to what that means / whether it's real or not
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "Publ 0.5.8, Authl 0.3.1, and IndieAuth security" http://publ.beesbuzz.biz/blog/18-Publ-0-5-8-Authl-0-3-1-and-IndieAuth-security
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jamietanna[m]
It appears that the `rack.session` cookie I had now references barry's session - I have tried replacing it in a new private window and it's still available
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jamietanna[m]
`Sign out` works, but the session token is still valid 🤔
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@vijaya
@WillOremus hi - here's our current definition: 1/ Ads that refer to an election or a candidate, or 2/ Ads that advocate for or against legislative issues of national importance (such as: climate change, healthcare, immigration, national security, taxes)
(twitter.com/_/status/1189664481263046656)
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@mikebutcher
Twitter banning all political advertising, will debilitate legitimate Remain & other campaigns while it does nothing to address the hordes of Russian bots promoting Leave / Trump etc https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/oct/30/twitter-ban-political-advertising-us-election
(twitter.com/_/status/1189661583246540811)
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "I'm Officially Part of the IndieWeb" https://www.jhsheridan.com/officially-indieweb/ (from https://aaronparecki.com/2019/10/30/32/)
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aaronpk
jsheridan++
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Loqi
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