#indieweb 2019-10-31
2019-10-31 UTC
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[jgmac1106] Didn't tantek add an undo feature which uses a delay? Youra would just be longer.
# [jgmac1106] I never got around to making a Halloween costume for my site... May just fall back on a background img and creepy font.... I had such cool css animation plans
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Publ 0.5.8, Authl 0.3.1, and IndieAuth security" http://publ.beesbuzz.biz/blog/491-Publ-0-5-8-Authl-0-3-1-and-IndieAuth-security
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[Ramiro_Ruiz] Still thinking about my structure if I keep using different type for each kind of post (note, photo, reply, etc.) or to keep all together under notes/ and just differentiate each one by their category. I took a look at what other Hugo users are doing, Daniel Goldsmith while he doesn’t have his code public, looks like he’s using posts for articles and micro for everything else. Jamie Tanna posts and mf2 for micro posts.
# [Ramiro_Ruiz] Right now the types I have are work, blog, notes, photos, replies and more in the works (quotes, reposts, workouts) so I don’t know if it will be better to keep them separate or is easier to maintain together 🤔
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[chrisbergr] I do not know Hugo at all. I use WordPress. But that's irrelevant. I Post my different kinds of post in a category with the same name. And also in a category "activity", exept for my kind "article" (defined by me as more authored and edited long text with some images...) So I can access them by type or all together. And I can use this category "activity" to hide those posts wherever it might annoy others, like in the RSS feed.
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jamietanna[m] [Ramiro_Ruiz] the main reason I kept them separate as so I'd be able to keep the underlying file structure different. Posts are YAML + markdown but mf2 is json which makes it easier to set via micropub
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# [xavierroy] [Ramiro_Ruiz] you could use sections to split up the different types. i am recreating my WP setup in Hugo and that's what I'm doing. I try to group post types under sections. I have separate sections for articles (long form), notes, and subsections for sleep, food, read, and watch posts
# [xavierroy] advantage of sections is permalinks and you could style things differently for each post type
# [xavierroy] on a second thought, if you mention the type in the front matter, it doesn't matter where your file resides in the content folder. It is your preference 🙂
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# [jgmac1106] morning all...trying to throw a costume on my homepage right quick...had big plans....but its gonna be a simple costume this year
# [jgmac1106] I am not sure what my startegy for layout of post types are, Known takes care of things very well in that department, on my personal site I seperate articles and photos. I haven't built a notes page yet
# [jgmac1106] I would need to learn way too much stuff to do that
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# Simounet Hello, I'm new here and interested in the indieweb. :)
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petermolnar hi Simounet! Do you happen to have a website? Any kind of website.
# Simounet petermolnar: I'm a self-hosted kind of guy. My old blog (https://www.simounet.net I should write more on it…).
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# Simounet Using Nextcloud, Ampache, leed (as an RSS reader).
# petermolnar I see you're using WordPress - did you see https://indieweb.org/WordPress and https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started_on_WordPress ?
# Simounet petermolnar: Yep, I enabled webmentions.
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[KevinMarks] Hugo is very flexible in terms of post types, in that you can define your own taxonomies https://gohugo.io/content-management/taxonomies/ they use these for categories, but they're more flexible
# [KevinMarks] So you could use categories, or you could define a post-type taxonomy
# Simounet petermolnar: It seems to be a lot more plugins. Is there a plugin to post from WP to Mastodon? I can't find one. (Yes, I know that I should try to do it by myself :p)
# petermolnar there are 2 ways to do that easily, both via brid.gy: https://brid.gy/mastodon/start?x=81&y=17&feature=listen&instance= and https://fed.brid.gy/
# petermolnar the first one should work with the brid.gy publish plugin
# petermolnar there is no plugin for the second one yet, as far as I'm aware
# petermolnar oh
# petermolnar I didn't know that
# petermolnar so it should work with fed.brid.gy as well
# petermolnar Simounet, example: with fed.brid.gy, a website can become @petermolnar.net@petermolnar.net on fediverse, without directly posting to a (mastodon) instance
# petermolnar with brid.gy you need to cross-post (POSSE in indieweb terms) to a mastodon instance where you have an account
# Simounet I already did it with the ActivityPub plugin.
# petermolnar or that.
# petermolnar I keep forgetting there's a WP plugin for anything :)
# Simounet That great anyway!
# Simounet Love the connect all the thing stuff. :D
# petermolnar connect all the things!
# petermolnar hm, Loqi...
# petermolnar connect all the things
# petermolnar ah, there it is
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# [jgmac1106] quick Halloween costume done: https://jgregorymcverry.com/
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# jamietanna[m] I've used taxonomies on Hugo to create post kinds ie https://www.jvt.me/kind/bookmarks/ (more detail in https://www.jvt.me/posts/2019/08/28/content-kind/)
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# [KevinMarks] do you set the kind explicitly in micropub, or do you do a post-kinds discovery on the backend and set that in hugo?
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# [Ramiro_Ruiz] Thank you to everyone, interesting to read all the setups. [xavierroy] I’m actually using sections.
# [Ramiro_Ruiz] content
# [Ramiro_Ruiz] |___replies
# [Ramiro_Ruiz] └── blog
# [Ramiro_Ruiz] |___notes
# [Ramiro_Ruiz] |___work
# [Ramiro_Ruiz] Is working and as some mention it gives you a lot of flexibility in Hugo, I think I’m going to group micropost in one folder besides blog and work.
# [Ramiro_Ruiz] |___photos
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sebsel I have and am working on a new implementation of a thing where I don't have post types at all, even though it appears as such. If a post has a property (like in the frontmatter) of 'like of', then the template renders that as a like. If it has a name, it renders a name, and thus it will become a blogpost.
# sebsel See https://seblog.nl - my feeds have posts that all look very different, but they are all just the same template in my backend and have no post type associated with them at all.
# jamietanna[m] [KevinMarks] yes this is done via a primitive post kind discovery (not fully compliant with the one on the wiki) on my Micropub endpoint
# jamietanna[m] sebsel I started with mine like that but found my template was complicated so wanted to extract the work out to my Micropub endpoint, which creates the content anyway so can set the kind correctly
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# [snarfed] i'm trying an experiment. i read twitter via a list, through twitter-atom, ie not my home timeline. but i still regularly end up reading inside the app anyway, due to their engagement hacking and all. so i'm going to unfollow everyone i follow, so that when i open the app (or web), hopefully it shows me little or nothing interesting or personalized.
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gRegorLove Interesting idea. I just did similar with Facebook, working up to totally deleting it.
# gRegorLove (not reading it in a reader though, hah. mainly accessing groups.)
# [snarfed] ok well that was quick. done. https://twitter.com/schnarfed/following
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[schmarty] snarfed++ very cool
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# [jgmac1106] Thx jbove...amazing what a few bits of inline styling can do
# [jgmac1106] aaronpk and [manton] bringing discussion about readers and writers and discovery here from meta
# [jgmac1106] I disagree on the tags... They are a tool I use on people's blogs a ton... And search. Don't discount that (even though I don't have it)
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# [snarfed] subjectively, seeing "0 Following" on https://twitter.com/schnarfed does feel pretty light and freeing
# [snarfed] like when i deleted all of my FB posts and so https://www.facebook.com/snarfed.org now only shows the "goodbye" post
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# Bitweasil [snarfed], but... if you don't have any followers, how do you know you exist? You don't MATTER without any followers!
# Bitweasil **sigh**
# Bitweasil oh, ok.
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jbove Speaking of followers. This twtxt thing is rad and imho really l33t. @reednj created an aggregator for twtxt: http://twtxt.xyz/timeline
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# jbove btw, anyone here using https://tilde.town/ ?
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[fluffy] http://tilde.club/~fluffy/ and I hope people notice the joke about the complete lack of tildes
# gRegorLove what is twtxt?
# Loqi twtxt is a decentralised, minimalist microblogging service for hackers https://indieweb.org/twtxt
# jbove If somebody is looking for hiring a talented and experienced programmer who just got laid off: https://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw?=1436.ninja+70+312f
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# jbove The meaning of the All Saints Day is kinda lost however in all the gore and gouliness ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Saints%27_Day
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[tantek] checks /ownyourdata
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# skalnik I started POSSEing my tweets with micro.blog and it's been super easy and great. I wish I could syndicate pictures to Instagram but oh well
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# [tantek] here's a suggested bio for your snarfed: Tweets, replies, retweets, and likes from https://snarfed.org, your responses show up there too. 100% reading & writing from the #indieweb since 2014!
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# [jgmac1106] I follow as a h/t haven't checked my home feed in years
# [jgmac1106] I could see not giving them signals but for that to fully work you would have to only use lists other people created