#indieweb 2019-11-03

2019-11-03 UTC
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Indieweb Thoughts Post State of the Word" https://david.shanske.com/2019/11/02/indieweb-thoughts-post-state-of-the-word/
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[tantek] GWG++ great post and prioritizing
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Loqi GWG has 19 karma in this channel over the last year (141 in all channels)
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[Michael_Beckwit i would find it interesting if the IW plugins integrated into the official Site Health data, which I know is filterable
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[tonz] GWG++ great post. What’s the rationale for integration of Webmention and syndication links?
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Loqi GWG has 20 karma in this channel over the last year (142 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106] I publish a a reply as a post, webmentions syndicates the content and links to your blog as a comment
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[jgmac1106] morning all
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GWG [tonz]: Did I say Syndication Links? It should be Semantic Linkbacks
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GWG Checked, got it right
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[jgmac1106] ...oh well, still say my reasoning was sound. great post gwg++
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Loqi gwg has 21 karma in this channel over the last year (143 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106] and grantcodes will help you navigate the transition to blocks
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[Kasper_Nymand] Hi IndieWeb, I have a question about the rel=“me” links used for indieauth. Do anybody have experience with Write.as / WriteFreely? That’s the platform I use to host my blog site at the moment.
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[Kasper_Nymand] I’ve added Mastodon, Twitter, and Email with rel=“me”.
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[Kasper_Nymand] Is this just not possible, or, am I doing something wrong? (I’m not really familiar with code yet)
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[Kasper_Nymand] You’re only able to customize your CSS and JavaScript for the site, and add HTML code in individual posts and pages. But, site-wide it’s CSS and JavaScript. So, I’ve added the rel=“me” links in an innerHTML in the Custom JavaScript field in settings. I’m able to find the links with rel=“me” through Inspector in my browser, but indieauth.com does not seem to be able to find them.
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aaronpk Can you share the link to your site?
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[Kasper_Nymand] https://kasper.app/
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Loqi Kasper Nymand
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[Kasper_Nymand] The links are added in the footer.
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aaronpk Looks like the links are added by javascript and not actually part of the HTML
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aaronpk you need to be able to "view source" of the page and see the HTML links there
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[Kasper_Nymand] Hmm, I don’t think the platform allows that at the moment.
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[Kasper_Nymand] I guess I just have to wait if I want to stay with Write.as
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[jgmac1106] I have tried to help people with write.as
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[jgmac1106] we have found you need the paid version to be able to edit the header or footer and even then it isn't as easy as editing HTML should be...I have notes or posts somehwere...one sec
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aaronpk [jgmac1106]: is this documented on the wiki page?
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aaronpk what is write.as?
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Loqi write.as is a minimal UI blogging tool meant for quick posting with good pseudonymity https://indieweb.org/write.as
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[jgmac1106] no I should..it was just trying to help a friend.... write.as is not the most search friendly term on my blog...
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[jgmac1106] ahh it was about trying to add a web ring to write.as: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/09/29/dogtrax-yes-reading-forums-you-have-to
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Loqi [Greg McVerry] @dogtrax Yes reading forums you have to have a paid account to add HTML to the footer. How do you get your by;line "A place to gather words before they get lost." wonder if you can there? I think it might be a paid feature
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[chrisbergr] [tantek] Your talk at WCUS was great! Great span of tension (Is that how you say it?) and then clearly and distinctly explained simple tools. I have the feeling (or at least the hope) that it opened the eyes of a few attendees.
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[tantek] Thanks [chrisbergr]. Hopefully we’ll get a few new signups for the IndieWebCamps I announced
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[manton] That would be great. Thanks [tantek] for the Micro.blog and IndieWebCamp Austin shout-outs! Hopefully a bunch of people now have the IndieWeb on their radar.
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[manton] Also thanks [aaronpk] for getting the Austin registration page up so quickly.
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aaronpk absolutely!
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[chrisbergr] I wish I could come to the summit in Portland. But the chances are very small.
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GWG [chrisbergr]: What is the next event you could come to?
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[chrisbergr] I can't do any this year. But if 2020 Nuremberg or Berlin take place, I will participate.
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GWG I will be in at the 2019 Berlin
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[chrisbergr] I know. And I think it's a shame I'm missing you and the event. Hopefully I'll get a second chance someday.
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GWG I keep coming back to Berlin because I like the crowd
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[chrisbergr] Great, I'm glad.
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gellenburg[m] This isn't a direct answer, but if you want to use pleroma from command line, take a look at toot. https://github.com/ihabunek/toot
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Loqi [ihabunek] toot: toot - Mastodon CLI & TUI
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tomasparks I am looking for a graph that shows the crossover point between using a dynamic vs a static website
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tomasparks I know that social media website are dynamic and website that only update by-weekly should be static, I am wondering is there a crossover point
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KartikPrabhu my website probably only changes monthly but it is not static
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aaronpk I don't think there's a single graph, a lot of it is pesonal opinion
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[chrisbergr] You can also use a dynamic solution with caching. But I figured out that this always brings problems with comments and webmentions. If you don't provide interactions, maybe this something for you.
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tomasparks I'm looking at from a costing point of view
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tomasparks i use a static website
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tomasparks thanks :(
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aaronpk I don't think static websites are necessarily cheaper either
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[chrisbergr] Really? If you use githib, it's only the domain.
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aaronpk there are so many factors though
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aaronpk don't forget the external cost of whatever tools you need in order to change the content of the static website
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tomasparks ^ knew that
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aaronpk e.g. a laptop
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aaronpk then there's also the time cost
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aaronpk anyway i'm just saying I think there's a lot of factors at play
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tomasparks I knew there were lots of variable at play
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aaronpk I don't understand the question then? I don't think there is a single crossover point, even if you were to create a multidimensional graph
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tomasparks I was think of post/updated as the main variable with time/cost a the second variable
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aaronpk well that's a much more specific question with a smaller surface area :)
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[jgmac1106] if time=money SSG not cheaper IMO
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[jgmac1106] oops aaronpk already said that
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[tonz] @gwg sorry my bad.
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aaronpk omg I forgot I made a special style for when an album post appear on my home page
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aaronpk https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2019-11-03-22-14-21-MEfatvJYcZ.jpg
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aaronpk one of the few (only?) things that spills out of my center column
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