#indieweb 2019-11-18

2019-11-18 UTC
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chrisaldrich jacky, if you haven't seen it before I know there are some who use granary to generate RSS/Atom feeds from their h-feeds instead of building them separately.
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chrisaldrich I'm not sure if anyone has something that will convert to JSONfeed though....
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jacky granary has h-feed to jsonfeed support!
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jacky I've made a note to opt for that tbh
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GWG_ Morning
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Loqi guten morgen
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GWG_ My loading of old location data has entered 2014.
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GWG_ At this rate, it may still be running when I leave for Berlin
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Hello, Indieweb!" https://offtopica.uk/blog/2019/11/08/hello-indieweb/ (from https://www.jvt.me/mf2/2019/11/i7ddy/)
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GWG_ Already at August 2014. Whee
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Simple Location Version 4.0.0 Released" https://david.shanske.com/2019/11/18/simple-location-version-4-0-0-released/
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GWG_ Okay, so now any archive on my site, like https://david.shanske.com/2019/09/23/map/ works as a map
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[schmarty] GWG++
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Loqi GWG has 21 karma in this channel over the last year (147 in all channels)
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cambridgeport90[ That’s pretty awesome. I’ll be updating that later on.
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GWG_ cambridgeport90[: Pretty long changelog
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[tantek] wow scrollback from the weekend! I was a bit otherwise pre-occupied 🙂
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[tantek] running a very different kind of program
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[tantek] lolol indieweb blue checkmarks are an amazing hilarious and maybe actually serious idea
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[tantek] we can all give each other blue checkmarks as we see fit on each others's websites 😂
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[tantek] could be a nice visualization of vouching
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[tantek] if you show someone's icon/name with a blue checkmark on your site, that could be used to mean you "vouch" for them, and thus others could use them as a vouch link when sending you a webmention
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[tantek] (borderline dev there but wanted to make the UX tie-in)
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gRegorLove hah, I like it
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beko[m] so… rel->contact?
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[jgmac1106] I could add a blue check mark to people on my following page.. I use colleague and muse mainly... Not sure what the blue check signifies that my following page doesn't already
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beko 👍
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[jgmac1106] ... Maybe if someone sends me a webmention and they are on my following page the checkmark gets displayed?... But i can't even display webmentions yet... So long time off
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beko that's no emoji tho. would require some svg. mayhap there is something in https://github.com/pfefferle/openwebicons
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Loqi [pfefferle] openwebicons: A font!
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[jgmac1106] And it don't gotta be blue or a checkmark
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[jgmac1106] Even though noo one does anything with XFN and nothing will display the data... I donworry "uh-oh what if someone realizes they are just a colleague and not a muse"
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beko backs away slowly
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[tantek] lololol you choose your own level of personal exposure
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[tantek] yes rel=contact could be useful for this
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[tantek] I personally like rel=met in combination because you are vouching for their physical existence (at some point in time)
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[tantek] as opposed to say, all the Twitter bots
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[jgmac1106] and really I reserve muse for the clmooc web ring folks who hang out and just post pictures, haikus, and poems
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[jgmac1106] feels bad for Loqi
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beko yay, back to key signing parties :)
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Loqi 😊
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bear loqi tell duffy I am online but not very active - if you have any questions about Python and micropub let me know
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Loqi bear: GWG left you a message on 2019-07-23 at 4:27am UTC: Your SSL certificate expired on the 18th.
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GWG_ Hi bear!!!
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bear hello :)
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GWG_ Long time no speak. Hope it isn't so long between times
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gRegorLove Hiya bear! I was just thinking I hadn't seen you around for a while.
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bear it has been a while - work and life got very hectic and busy
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bear I hope not, work has calmed down some so I am finding the urge to do some personal coding again
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gRegorLove That msg didn't work btw, needs to start with !tell
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bear !tell duffy I am online but not very active - if you have any questions about Python and micropub let me know
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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bear thanks gRegorLove
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[jgmac1106] having fun with RSVPs: https://edu106.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/rsvp-to-your-pathway
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cambridgeport90[ <[tantek] "yes rel=contact could be useful "> Is there a master list of all of those we can look all of them up? I see them sort of scattered around all over the place.
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[jgmac1106] I know it sounds wrong, but I guess an assignment is an event with a start and end (due date) but I am going to create a self guided gradebook where people RSVP (thats the part that is semantically wrong..but it works) to assignments as they hand them in...cc [kenbauer]
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[tantek] cambridgeport90, yes see gmpg.org/xfn/11
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] yup sounds like a bit of semantic mis-use for the sake of syntactic convenience. always a bad path to go down as you end up diluting (at best) the syntax, and at worse abusing it and adding noise
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jacky if I do show that kind of info on my site, I'd want it to be gated
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jacky or at least some kind of ACL
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jacky ooh some nice ones at https://pfefferle.dev/openwebicons/icons/#html5-icons
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jacky er https://pfefferle.dev/openwebicons/icons/#microformats-icons
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jacky especially for a microsub client
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[tantek] jacky, if you mean the XFN stuff, I now agree. I think maybe some coarse information like contact vs met etc. is ok "publicly" however anything more I'm now more skeptical of than not.
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[tantek] I kinda feel like the whole thing needs to be rethought / redesigned in the context of today's social media pitfalls