#indieweb 2019-11-21

2019-11-21 UTC
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[fluffy] Does anyone have any suggestions for self-hosted shopping cart/payments things? I’m looking at OpenCart and it seems a bit overkill for what I want, but I don’t want to, like, pay $25/month to Shopify or $5+/month to etsy which won’t even list a lot of the things I want to sell anyway
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[fluffy] but I’m not feeling persnickety enough to build my own thing against the Square or Stripe API
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[fluffy] In the short term I’ll probably just use gumroad for everything but that’s really designed around digital fulfillment and isn’t great for physical goods.
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KartikPrabhu what is shopping cart
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "shopping cart" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "shopping cart is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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KartikPrabhu what is etsy
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "etsy" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "etsy is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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KartikPrabhu what is shopify
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Loqi Shopify is a service for selling online https://indieweb.org/Shopify
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KartikPrabhu doesn't seem to be anything documented
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[jgmac1106] Fluffy i love snipcart for static pages
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[jgmac1106] You add some metadata into a button element for each product
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[jgmac1106] Here is an example https://kevo.glass/Store.html
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[fluffy] [jgmac1106] thanks, I’ll look into that
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[fluffy] okay yeah this looks very doable. jgmac1106++
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Loqi jgmac1106 has 26 karma in this channel over the last year (113 in all channels)
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[fluffy] I would prefer something that doesn’t require javascript but eh
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[fluffy] everyone needs javascript now 😕
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[chrisaldrich] what is payment?
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Loqi payment in the context of the indieweb refers to a feature on an indie web site that provides a way for the visitor to that website to pay (currency, gift card credit, etc.) the person represented by that indie web site https://indieweb.org/payment
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[chrisaldrich] ^^ may have some useful tidbits [fluffy]
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[chrisaldrich] What is portfolio?
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Loqi A portfolio on the Indieweb is a professional web page (or collection thereof) targeted at paying customers/clients that often shows examples of work and projects https://indieweb.org/portfolio
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[chrisaldrich] portfolio << https://lynnandtonic.com/archive/ which is also a good example of using one's own website as an "opportunity to try new things and continue learning."
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Loqi ok, I added "https://lynnandtonic.com/archive/ which is also a good example of using one's own website as an "opportunity to try new things and continue learning."" to the "See Also" section of /portfolio https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=66500&oldid=58975
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Sending Webmentions More Intelligently" https://www.jvt.me/posts/2019/11/20/intelligent-webmentions/
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metbril Does anyone now if micropublish.net should be able to edit posts from the WordPress Micropub server?
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[fluffy] The payment page doesn’t seem to cover the use case I’m looking for which is actually selling items.
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[fluffy] Anyway I’m just going to build a simple Publ site that uses snipcart
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jamietanna[m] metbril I've never used the WP plugin, but it should if the micropub endpoint supports it. Can you edit with other clients ie quill.p3k.io?
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beko[m] bridgy++
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Loqi bridgy has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (8 in all channels)
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metbril @jamie I don't know how to edit with Quill. Can't seem to find a place to enter a permalink.
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metbril Micropublish returns "Internal Error"
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metbril literally "Internal Server Error", that is... The HTML source doesn't show anything else.
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metbril I'll crosspost in #wordpress
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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jgmac1106 mornign jeremy
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jeremycherfas Hi Greg
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jacky morning indieweb
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swentel new release for indigenous pushed :)
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jacky rushes to download
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swentel some subtle bug fixes and some new (experimental) features
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jamietanna[m] swentel++
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Loqi swentel has 6 karma in this channel over the last year (26 in all channels)
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jamietanna[m] I don't have it available yet 😥 will keep my eyes peeled tho
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jgmac1106 I really need to figure out my token problems with Known, I miss inidigenous, the reader still works
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Loqi misses inidigenous too
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jgmac1106 actually no, my channels don’t load
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jgmac1106 congrats swentel
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jgmac1106 swentel++
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Loqi swentel has 7 karma in this channel over the last year (27 in all channels)
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beko[m] swentel++
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Loqi swentel has 8 karma in this channel over the last year (28 in all channels)
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beko[m] would love to see a proper changelog btw
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swentel beko[m], what do you mean?
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beko[m] swentel: you're not providing a `CHANGELOG.md`, don't you? Or did I miss this?
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swentel beko[m], oh, hmm, well there's a changelog file in the assets folder in the source
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swentel in indigenous you can view it under 'About'
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swentel but it could probably be a bit cleaner
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beko[m] That belongs to https://github.com/swentel/indigenous-android too.
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Loqi [swentel] indigenous-android: An app with extensions for sharing information to micropub endpoints and reading from microsub endpoints
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swentel oh, so, basically in the README file, so it shows on that page? (or does github parse changelog automatically too there?)
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beko[m] No, it's for humans 🙂 See https://keepachangelog.com/en/1.0.0/
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beko[m] I probably have to wait until Google Play pushes the update :(
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jacky F-Droid :)
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jacky appstores---
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Loqi appstores- has -1 karma over the last year
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jgmac1106 ugghh I hate magin link email sign in…really I hate how aggressive my univerisity is at blocking spam…but it makes magic link signs on impossible
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jgmac1106 magic
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jacky https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2019/11/google-facebook-surveillance-privacy/
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[tantek] yeah 😕 been seeing this one make the rounds
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Zegnet Hello IndieWeb!
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jacky o/
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[tantek] Whoa Zegnet?
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Zegnat Apparently at some point I disconnected and the bouncer couldn’t get my name
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Zegnat Order has been restored
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jeremycherfas Phew.
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GWG_ Zegnat: Welcome back
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Zegnat waves at GWG
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GWG_ Zegnat, you remoting in this weekend?
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Zegnat If I am home, which it currently looks like I will be, then yes!
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GWG_ Zegnat: Any projects on your mind?
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GWG_ I have a fun easter egg I am thinking of adding
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Zegnat I may have been tinkering with microformats parsing in JavaScript, that I may continue with this weekend
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GWG_ Zegnat, I just updated my oldest post
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Zegnat The event of your birth? What was there to update? :o
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GWG_ Zegnat: I just did it on my phone while waiting at the airport
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beko[m] Zegnat: I'm all ears for mf parsing in JS 🙂
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GWG_ I am working on another update
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Zegnat GWG: needs more parsability ;)
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Zegnat beko[m]: if I produce anything of note, hopefully I can show it off during the demos (if I am actually at my desk this weekend)
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GWG_ Zegnat: Exactly what I am doing while sitting here
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GWG_ Refresh
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Zegnat Nice!
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GWG_ Zegnat, regrettably, the editor strips data tags unless I key it in manually
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GWG_ Zegnat: I originally went in to add the weather
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Zegnat Hmm, do you have a posibility to add a source link for weather? I doubt your own weather station was up and running at your birth, so you must have taken this from some historical record I guess?
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GWG_ Dark Sky
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GWG_ Zegnat, refresh, finished the markup
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Zegnat Interesting types for the measurements :D
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Zegnat Nice easter-egg, GWG!
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Zegnat What is easter egg?
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Loqi An easter egg is an (often small) undocumented feature, many are small jokes https://indieweb.org/easter_egg
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Zegnat did not know Dark Sky had historical weather data like that
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GWG_ Zegnat: Inches and pounds?
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Zegnat No, head and chest.
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Zegnat As in, I am not sure those sizes are self explanatory? Is there a definition for where chest size is measured? (I bet there is, but it is getting late)
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GWG_ Zegnat: I took it from a primary source
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GWG_ Zegnat, might this be better suited in microformats or dev though?
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GWG_ If we are getting into the details
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Zegnat Definitely!
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Zegnat Though, at 1 minute to 11, I am not sure I have the attention span to get into anything after a full working day ;)
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beko Zegnat: cool
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loui1986 hey, greetings from IRC
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loui1986 t/cd
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loui1986 gives loqi a hug
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Loqi jumps on the hug
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loui1986 hehe, much better than slack
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loui1986 only problem with IRC is I'm not the best user of it
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loui1986 clear
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