#indieweb 2020-04-15

2020-04-15 UTC
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subnaught hi.
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subnaught I have a website!
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[prtksxna] 🙌🙌🙌
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[prtksxna] subnaught: What did you build it on?
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subnaught On many platforms, for 20 years.
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[LewisCowles] lovely. And you're interested in the Indieweb now? What would you like to change about your website?
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subnaught Nothing, except to drum up some traffic and get feedback.
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[LewisCowles] Got a link?
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subnaught www.300605525.me
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[LewisCowles] The link to the facebook page could have rel="me" as an attribute of the anchor tag
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subnaught what does that attrib do?
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[LewisCowles] It says "this is me", but elsewhere on the internet
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subnaught ok.
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[LewisCowles] if you were to add your website to your personal facebook (unsure about pages)
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[LewisCowles] https://www.facebook.com/{your-username}/about?section=contact-info&force-refresh should link back
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[LewisCowles] at least on mine it's showing a rel="me"
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subnaught My homepage is listed on my Facebook pages.
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[LewisCowles] right, but because it is missing `me` in the `rel` attribute, your attestation that this is your facebook page, is not supported by your facebook page data.
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subnaught Oic..the .me address is an alias.
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[LewisCowles] if you linked to https://www.facebook.com/jason.lindsay.crockett/about?section=contact-info&force-refresh it would be a valid attestation
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subnaught I gave it to you as shorthand.
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TPW Hi
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TPW mind to play my new released game, Meditation 5?
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TPW There are 25 keys avaible here:
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TPW http://thunderperfectwitchcraft.org/Med5/giveaway.txt
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[LewisCowles] Your github being added to your website would allow you to use third-party web-services from Indieweb community members, such as Indielogin, which using your website and github profile, would allow you to sign in / up to the indieweb wiki
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subnaught I will consider it, but for now I want ppl to log in with Facebook.
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subnaught Or MSN.
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[LewisCowles] There is no Indieweb effort to back either of those parties I'm aware of. There are syndication efforts to and I think maybe facebook. The wiki and others will have more information. Thanks for joining and sharing
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subnaught Thanks!
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[LewisCowles] (typo) to and I think maybe *from* facebook
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subnaught bye,thx
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sebsel I don't think there is a *should* here, but you could benefit from this:
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sebsel what is relmeauth?
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Loqi RelMeAuth is an authentication method that uses personal URL for identity that rel-me link to established OAuth provider(s) to perform the actual authentication https://indieweb.org/RelMeAuth
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sebsel but in the end it's up to you :)
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sebsel there aren't many *should*s on the IndieWeb and that's a nice thing
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[LewisCowles] is this RE: facebook should link back, or changing the link?
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[LewisCowles] started here
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[LewisCowles] > The link to the facebook page *could* have rel="me" as an attribute of the anchor tag
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[LewisCowles] what facebook should do was merely stating what I've observed their platform doing
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[LewisCowles] on some pages and not others
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[jgmac1106] Morning all
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[LewisCowles] Morning Greg
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[LewisCowles] there is poetry linked above
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sebsel ah, okay. I was trying to answer the question 'what does rel=me do?'
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[jgmac1106] Thx
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[jgmac1106] Have power back finally, no internet yet
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[LewisCowles] Ah, the should in this case it is two fold. Large providers should follow w3c recommendations. They may not, but considering all they do that is for people across many devices it could even help them to mine more data
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[LewisCowles] but also that if you did change your site, it should make attestation the two are related possible
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[LewisCowles] without it, there would be cues, but not standardised signals
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[LewisCowles] but you're right there is no hard requirement from this group
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[LewisCowles] jgmac1106, burning mobile data then?
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[jgmac1106] A bit Lewis. I don't have the greatest service where I live. Have three kids in home school... Wonder how muxh I used yesterday
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beko sebsel: Zegnat has this very good article about rel=me https://wiki.zegnat.net/media/the-real-deal-about-rel-me.html - you may know it already tho.
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[LewisCowles] beko++
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Loqi beko has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (8 in all channels)
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[LewisCowles] zegnat++
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Loqi zegnat has 15 karma in this channel over the last year (56 in all channels)
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[LewisCowles] I now feel compelled to add myself as rel author to my site 😁
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[LewisCowles] and done. I should probably try to check I've not linked me as an author twice per-page, but for now this is fine
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beko :D
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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[LewisCowles] Good Morning jeremycherfas
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jeremycherfas Hello [LewisCowles]
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[LewisCowles] I must remember to start using square brackets
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jeremycherfas For what?
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[LewisCowles] it seems others have begun using them when mentioning people
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[LewisCowles] you just did above
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[LewisCowles] or was it IRC, or another chat platform?
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jeremycherfas Ah, right. I was (am) on IRC. The bridge automagically inserts them for people on Slack. So I type Lewi and then press tab and it sends [LewisCowles]
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[LewisCowles] how are things?
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jeremycherfas Pretty good. Lots of work, which is nice but keeps me from the things I want to do.
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aaronpk hm normally the slack bridge translates that to an @ on the slack side
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jeremycherfas About to sneak out now and try to have a walk without being stopped by overzealous cops.
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swentel still tight rules there?
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[LewisCowles] good luck
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jeremycherfas Made it, unmolested.
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jeremycherfas Rules are still pretty tight, yes. Although bizarrely, one of the new categories of essential shops allowed to open is children's clothing.
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swentel ok, weird .. :)
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sknebel alongside bookshops and stationery stores? Guess sort-of makes sense as "stores on might need in a longer lockdown".
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sknebel I recently had quite an annoying time trying to find a place that could copy some documents
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jeremycherfas Yes, that is an issue. I gave up having a home printer ages ago because there is a copy shop just across the road. Fortunately I won't need hard copies for at least three months.
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sknebel I found one of those typical kiosk-type places here that also had a copier in the end. (had first tried asking at bank branches, but no luck)
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jeremycherfas At a pinch I can use The Main Squeeze's printer, but I don't like to bother her.
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indier indier
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indier Hello. Anyone know about the homebrew london event that is supposed to be on now?
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indier event url: https://events.indieweb.org/2020/04/online-homebrew-website-club-europe-london-vco13rIPAzZU
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sknebel ping [calumryan]
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indier OK
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[calumryan] It’s on now
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indier It seems to require zoom download, or sign-up. No thanks.
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[LewisCowles] Oh it's clashing with my other event
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[LewisCowles] Have fun all
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indier 70 mb file to download!
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beko indier: I know that feeling. Happy that our local group switched to Jitsi.
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[LewisCowles] is it that much smaller overall? Everyone was complaining about it until I subscribed to zoom pro. Now all the problems they had with Jitsi seem to have resolved
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beko *shrugs* the only problems I had with Jitsi were Firefox related. There's a long ticket going with a lot of gore about WebRTC. Zoom on the other hand? _Lots_ of smoke.
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[calumryan] Homebrew Website Club Europe/London’s IndieWeb Meetup beginning now https://events.indieweb.org/2020/04/online-homebrew-website-club-europe-london-vco13rIPAzZU
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[LewisCowles] This might be why people I know had problems. We love the Firefox
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beko I'm also not interested in installing any app or creating yet another account anywhere for some video conference..
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beko No idea if this stuff is sorted out. for me it "just works" :)
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[grantcodes] Zoom has/had a web version where you don't need to install anything. It used to not be obvious at all an they may have got rid of it
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beko I get it. It's easy. That's what lured people into Facebook in the first place. No thanks.
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[Ana_Rodrigues] I can’t join today’s Homebrew Website Club but I hope it is going well 🙂 see you next week!
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[calumryan] Sad but see you next week! [Ana_Rodrigues] 🙂
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[LewisCowles] did the meeting end deliberately as we all had nothing to show?
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[calumryan] Partly but it’s also the Zoom meeting is due to timeout at 8:00pm BST
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[chrisaldrich] Is anyone else using their personal website as a coronavirus journal/diary? There may be some benefits for doing so. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/smarter-living/why-you-should-start-a-coronavirus-diary.html
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jmac I've made a couple posts about life in NYC recently to fogknife.com. Not at diary-rate, but once every couple weeks. Have gotten some good feedback on it
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[grantcodes] I have a journal, but pretty much stopped during lockdown 🤷‍♂️ mine is more of a log of what I do rather than my thoughts. And I am currently doing nothing of interest 😛
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gRegorLove Not my site, but I keep thinking I should write in my physical journal just to work through *gestures around wildly*
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[schmarty] does this count? https://martymcgui.re/tag/caturday/ 😅
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jmac yes
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jmac gRegorLove: for no rational reason I've very lately started preferring to mark my "working-through" thoughts in a paper notebook again, for the first time since I moved to NYC
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jmac And it's been useful. I don't think there's any objective superiority to pencil+paper, just expressing sympathy for hearing the call
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gRegorLove writing personal thoughts on paper does help me sometimes, but I'm also thinking I'd like to look back on them after the fact
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gRegorLove caturday++
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Loqi caturday has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (2 in all channels)
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[chrisaldrich] [schmarty] How much time are you spending on that Caturday project?! Or is your cat that expressive naturally? It's definitely an #AutoFollow.
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[schmarty] [chrisaldrich] our cat is pretty entertaining, but i have organized a little bit to make sure i have a pool of photos to pick from. i use the favorites feature on my iphone to pick good ones and remove them when i post them.
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aaronpk i keep forgetting about the favorites feature!
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[chrisaldrich] I think it also helps to have the short motion pieces too. Getting longer entertaining pet videos is an incredibly patience testing task.
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[schmarty] a nice side-effect of iOS Live Photos!
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[schmarty] this is pretty much the best they can achieve, in my opinion 😅
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[Kevin_Faaborg] i'm looking forward to the virtual meeting tonight 🙂
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[tantek] been away for a bit, finally caught up for a few days
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[tantek] jeremycherfas, thanks! curious what additional insights and/or features you noticed about using 960 & 1920 as widths for images
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[tantek] re: what is indieweb, that's definitely a better conversation for the meta channel 🙂
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[tantek] lots of site-death examples here (thread) that are worth incorporating: https://twitter.com/allaboutgeorge/status/1249811895864807424
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@allaboutgeorge Removed from Flickr account's third-party app list: Flock Vox Yahoo! Picture Frame Widget Flickr Export for iPhoto 2 BigHugeLabs 1001 (Infinite Sushi) Picnik Photophlow Mobypicture Dopplr Pixelpipe feedalizr Nokia Social Hub (twitter.com/_/status/1249811895864807424)
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[tantek] https://twitter.com/allaboutgeorge/status/1249811959320473600
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@allaboutgeorge Also: Flavors dot me AIM Lifestream Snoto Stipple Memolane Backupify Flickroid Foodspotting Twicca Intersect dot-com Photorank Everpix Hipster Klout dot-com Snapjoy glimmr Vizify Homerun (Y! Homepage) Jux dot-com (twitter.com/_/status/1249811959320473600)
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jmac Oh no, my Klout score
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[snarfed] omg klout :troll: