#indieweb 2020-05-05
2020-05-05 UTC
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annadane man, scuttlebutt is... what's the word for annoying to get working
# annadane complains about improper sandbox permissions then tells me the file doesn't exist when i try to edit the thing it asks
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# annadane i found a page for troubleshooting it but now i've lost it
# annadane oh. they have an irc channel linked on their github, i'll ask there
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@thedannorris Omg I taught my kids to code yesterday we must have uploaded the file over my live site 🤦♂️ will fix https://twitter.com/imeldafossu/status/1256633767638306817 (twitter.com/_/status/1256680206720307200)
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# [LewisCowles] KevinMarks++ that is fantastic
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jeremycherfas Morning IndieWeb [LewisCowles] and everyone else.
# [LewisCowles] morning [jeremycherfas]
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# [Arne] morning
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# [LewisCowles] morning [Arne]
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# [LewisCowles] morning [Zegnat]
# [LewisCowles] man, you're on the app and slack. my bad
# jeremycherfas Hello Zegnat
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# jeremycherfas Maybe. Known meeting tomorrow evening CEST.
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# jeremycherfas You would be very welcome. I'm hoping to be able to pop in to IWC Europe/London afterwards.
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[chrisaldrich] I just ran across an interesting example relating to taxonomies. https://math.stackexchange.com/tags/mnemonic/synonyms Has anyone built the idea of "tag synonyms" into their websites?
# [LewisCowles] Not on a personal website, but I have several iterations both for my own business and other businesses. Thanks for the link. A Possible bridge to others doing the same.
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# [LewisCowles] Use case. Site too large to use navigation with too many combinations for a locale to be able to distinguish the combinations of synonyms. Search must be used, but a canonical example should be created with best-effort towards the most commonly used term for the content
# [LewisCowles] canonical name can be impacted by
# [LewisCowles] • SEO & discoverability goals
# [LewisCowles] • team tooling (i.e. may use intuition / woo to guess-at without tooling0
# [LewisCowles] • monitored user behaviour
# [LewisCowles] that last 0 should be a closing bracket
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# [chrisaldrich] I've been doing some research on memory throughout history and across cultures and languages, so I've been thinking about creating a set of tags that use the same concept and having them all interlink.
# [LewisCowles] Are you using WordPress?
# [chrisaldrich] I've also got a use case for a renaissance scholar whose name appears in a dozen different languages and is relatively close, but different in nearly every one.
# [chrisaldrich] [LewisCowles], yes, on at least one of the sites I'm using for this research.
# [LewisCowles] So how comfortable are you hacking / coding / engineering WordPress?
# [chrisaldrich] I'm at a reasonable level. I know how things work generally, the bigger question is how motivated I am to do the work required.
# [chrisaldrich] I can only think how hard it would be for Konrad Celtis to do serious SEO with so many variants of his name: https://portal.dnb.de/opac.htm?method=simpleSearch&cqlMode=true&query=idn%3D118519891
# [LewisCowles] that is a different strategy to any I've encountered and seems contrary to SEO as I understand it as a non expert
# [LewisCowles] There is nothing turn-key, with good reason. Happy to chat through in Dev
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# [chrisaldrich] [LewisCowles] thanks for the offer. I've got a couple of initial ideas for a WordPress solution I'll try. I'll have to come up with something for my wiki though.
# [LewisCowles] It's always interesting if you find / make the time. I'd guess that of the businesses I try to introduce to this, most is for documentation and a large percentage are totally not interested in acknowledging that expecting others to use the exact same words, be in the same situations / routes is unreasonable.
# [LewisCowles] for the one person name, I might just be lazy and tag them several times
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# [chrisaldrich] Within TiddlyWiki, I typically tag or link all the names, and it's got a little function that allows one to modify the tag in one place and it changes all the others everywhere else.
# [chrisaldrich] I don't think it's built into the main functionality, but is part of an add-on in TiddlyBlink to create the same sort of renaming/link functionality that Roam Research has been using.
# [LewisCowles] I've never been able to get my head around more than the big-picture side of TiddlyWiki
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# [LewisCowles] TBF I could expand that to Wiki's in general. I borrow concepts from them like the find or create metaphor; but I'm really just borrowing
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rrix TW is neat because it's got a pretty neat preprocessor and you can embed queries and limited UI elements that can influence the queries https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Filters.html
# [LewisCowles] rrix, have you written about it at all?
# [LewisCowles] I think half my battle is reading something I can try in isolation. Maybe half the battle with taking on any new software if it doesn't immediately click is "am I being paid", "are there resources to reduce my 10000 hour grind"
# [LewisCowles] Luckily I started a very long time ago, but sometimes I see people trying new technologies, or using others, and I wonder if there was a similar sacrifice made, or if they are just "the one", like a neo-level technologist
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[KevinMarks] [chrisaldrich] to be fair, Britney spears had that problem too https://archive.google.com/jobs/britney.html
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# [LewisCowles] TBF it's not that I believe I don't waste time or have some aversion to it. I'm more mindful of how much time I've wasted throughout life already and the impending end of it creeping ever closer that might be spent wasted. FOMO is real
# [chrisaldrich] [KevinMarks] you mean Britannia Lancea right? 😉
# [chrisaldrich] Celtes had a bigger issue in that he was living in a time before spelling of much of anything had been regularized by dictionaries and social pressure too. That Spears page is kind of awesome from a linguistics research perspective.
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# [KevinMarks] Also Google really don't like you mixing languages on a single page
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doubleloop rrix: thanks :) still org-publish. styles from http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/
# doubleloop I just added the org-roam graph in to the publish too https://commonplace.doubleloop.net/graph.svg
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