#indieweb 2020-05-07

2020-05-07 UTC
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GWG
HWC West Coast is online. Check the event page.
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KartikPrabhu
needs password
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aaronpk
huh the password should be in the URL
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aaronpk
try removing the *
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KartikPrabhu
yup worked thanks
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Loqi
[abdullahkhalids] Ask HN: How to self-host comments on your otherwise static blog?
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
Can someone link the etherpad link here?
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gRegorLove
progress issue on indiebookclub since we're talking about progress in general: https://github.com/gRegorLove/indiebookclub/issues/14
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Loqi
[gRegorLove] #14 Feature request: reading progress
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
sorry will rejoin in 5min
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gRegorLove
you're really choppy [tantek]
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aaronpk
tantek is in SF where everyone in 8 square miles is sharing a tiny internet pipe
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GWG
aaronpk: How would you describe NY then?
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skalnik
I’m in SF but I moved to a spot with symmetric gigabit fiber hehe
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aaronpk
Much bigger
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
`./` i think doesn't change anything [tantek]
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
(or im totally doing it wrong)
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
```First, with no trailing slashes:
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
"/a/b" + "b/c" = "/a/b/c" go down to c
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
"/a/b" + "c" = "/a/c" go to c at the same level
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
"/a/b" + "../c" = "/c" go up, then to c
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
Even with dot-slash, you (seemingly?) still have to mention b to go down:
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
"/a/b" + "../c" = "/c" go up, then to c
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
"/a/b" + "./c" = "/a/c" go to c at the same level
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
"/a/b" + "./b/c" = "/a/b/c" go down to c
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
Same three, but starting with a trailing slash:
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
"/a/b/" + "../c" = "/a/c" go to c at the same level
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
"/a/b/" + "../../c" = "/c" go up, then to c
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[Kevin_Faaborg]
"/a/b/" + "c" = "/a/b/c" go down to c```
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[Bryn_Wolf]
Hello! I was wondering if anyone uses wix? Or greengeeks?
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jeremycherfas
Good morning IndieWeb
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swentel
morning
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[LewisCowles]
Good morning lovely people
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[jgmac1106]
morning all, liking firefox voice more and more these days. 3 h/t to whoever connects it to someway for me to add blogs to my reader and publish notes to my blog
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[LewisCowles]
Morning Greg.
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[LewisCowles]
I've experimented with tags for post-series finally on my blog. Might stop my /blog/ page getting too long as I decided to go first post to last instead of last to first.
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[LewisCowles]
https://www.lewiscowles.co.uk/blog/ now has a https://www.lewiscowles.co.uk/blog/modern-deployment-patterns/ section. I like how visually consistent it is allowing people to go straight to a post as well as to a common theme.
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[jgmac1106]
I really wish I could toggle back and forth in Known, part of the reason I added a wiki was too much tagged content, needed an extra layer of curation
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[jgmac1106]
My poetry feed goes first post to last, but it was getting too long visually so I started so I started to organize by month
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[jgmac1106]
is the first page supposed to give me an error message?
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[LewisCowles]
can you share the error message with me?
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[LewisCowles]
it should be flat HTML
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[LewisCowles]
so no scripting weirdness.
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[LewisCowles]
the tag page(s) will also be h-feeds
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[LewisCowles]
oddly this is also resolving in all the browsers I've tried, including text-mode ones.
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[jgmac1106]
not happenign anymore
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[jgmac1106]
kept tellignme I had no internet
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[jgmac1106]
but only the first link did that, it was a long message, made me question if it was even an error message
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[jgmac1106]
oh have open ion a tab still
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[LewisCowles]
can you try a refresh? It uses serviceworker so should load
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[jgmac1106]
is your 404 page
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[LewisCowles]
The message is deliberate
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[jgmac1106]
works now, i do like cute 404 pages, but that one made me confused, especially telling me I have no internet
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[jgmac1106]
that is probably the least likely cause of your page not loading
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[LewisCowles]
It's the only case you should ever see that page.
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[LewisCowles]
in order to see it you need a browser supporting service-worker, for the browser to believe it's offline and to have previously visited the page
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[LewisCowles]
I should get a real 404 page though too. See https://www.lewiscowles.co.uk/blog/doesnt-exist
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[jgmac1106]
but it is pretty neat. Congrats!
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[LewisCowles]
awful nginx default 404
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[jgmac1106]
anyway you can hide the screen I see before the build, that split second source code?
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[LewisCowles]
source code. How are you viewing my webpage?
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[LewisCowles]
#indieweb-dev?
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GWG
Happy Radio Day everyone
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[LewisCowles]
Happy Radio day to you too David. I'll search for what that is in a moment
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GWG
It came up during last night's HWC when someone mentioned the Star Wars 'holidays'
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[LewisCowles]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Radio_Day (sidenote google is awful for making me click to be able to reference something found without giving their link in-front)
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b3u
I already have one collection of blog posts, and i want to start a second, unconnected one.
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b3u
What should I do in terms of urls
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b3u
ie. just mix it with my normal posts and tag it differently?
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b3u
I don't know that programmers or writers are at all interested in religion.
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[Binyamin_Green]
Hi, I'm b3u. Just joined from slack.
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markopasha
do you use insomniacslk/irc-slack for that connection?
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[Binyamin_Green]
Just the normal slack web app
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markopasha
hmm okay
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[Binyamin_Green]
Do you have a suggestion for me, though?
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[Binyamin_Green]
I basically have one blog, and I want to start a second, unrelated one. Should I merge the two, keep them one separate parts of one site, etc?
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[Binyamin_Green]
*on
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markopasha
you can use subdomains if you dont want pay for new domain and hosting
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markopasha
i think search engines also think subdomains are different sites
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[Binyamin_Green]
True, but that's a bulky url. What do you think would be separate enough to divide the traffic, but still make sense structurally? having two post feeds is a little wierd.
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markopasha
i think it depends on the posting ratio. forex if you post 5 tech blogposts and 1 sports blogpost. you can keep it in the same site. but if theyre close probably new url is better option
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[Binyamin_Green]
thanks
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markopasha
noproblem
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[jgmac1106]
my vote is just write, content matters, people click on links, though I litter the web with pop up blogs for specific topics
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[LewisCowles]
GWG++ for redirecting me
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Loqi
GWG has 30 karma in this channel over the last year (141 in all channels)
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[tantek]
Does anyone use keybase for any security on their personal site (e.g. sign-in / indieauth via pgp etc.) FYI: https://keybase.io/blog/keybase-joins-zoom
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[tantek]
what is Wix
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Loqi
Wix is a point-and-click website creation service https://indieweb.org/Wix
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[tantek]
what is greengeeks
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "greengeeks" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "greengeeks is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
hmm, does anybody here have any experience with using Wix or setting up a custom domain on the Greengeeks webhost and can help out [Bryn_Wolf]? (see her message above)
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[jgmac1106]
[Bryn_Wolf] lot of charities in my world build on wix. So I am a bit familiar. We do recommend against using it because WiX ToS do now allow for any download or export
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[jgmac1106]
dtantek do you know where the message. I
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[jgmac1106]
but many people like the experience so much they continue with the platform even when I explain these concerns
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[jgmac1106]
oops typo of two messages merged
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[tantek]
GreenGeeks is https://www.greengeeks.com/ a [[webhosting]] provider that claims to be the world’s #1 [[green]] energy web hosting provider.
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[tantek]
green << GreenGeeks
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[asuh]
[Bryn_Wolf] You might want to read the blog of Marco Saric. He hosts at GreenGeeks (and his links to that host provider are affilate links). He even talks about Wix vs WordPress. https://markosaric.com/wix-vs-wordpress/ So maybe his blog can help you with some info.
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Loqi
Wix vs WordPress comparison: What are the differences?
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themaxdavitt
been lurking here for a lil while bc i've been too busy to actually make a proper indieweb-enabled site, but im just curious, what is Loqi? the way you're using it to interact with your wiki is really slick.
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sknebel
What is Loqi?
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Loqi
Loqi is a friendly and useful bot/digital therapist present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/Loqi
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themaxdavitt
lol i should've just tried that, ty
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sknebel
and welcome :)
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gRegorLove
He's the bot of mischief
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[Aaron_Klemm]
For @fkrt2 who asked about privacy, this podcast is truly excellent https://www.inteltechniques.com/podcast.html
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