#indieweb 2020-06-28

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joseph_dickson they're
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[manton] [gRegorLove] Never mind about the email, I had time to create it just now before the next session. It should show up under your account.
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GWG joseph_dickson: But they return a 404 rather than a 401
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GWG So you can't know to authenticate
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joseph_dickson @GWG that I didn't know.
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GWG joseph_dickson: If I change it by plugin would people be surprised
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jacky heads to the hallway
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[schmarty] jacky: what about the cooking for others session? 😄
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jacky oh it already started?!
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[schmarty] yessirrrrrr
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[tantek] Cooking For Others!
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ben_thatmustbeme jacky++
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[chrisaldrich] what is readmill?
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Loqi Readmill was a silo for reading ebooks and making annotations https://indieweb.org/Readmill
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[chrisaldrich] What is altmetric?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "altmetric" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "altmetric is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] resiliency as a measure of success
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[tantek] lower the barriers to "try before you buy"
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[tantek] did I just hear cultivate your passion for bonsai?
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[schmarty] tantek: yes i went there 😅
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[schmarty] just about time on the last session. chrisaldrich, aaronpk, gwg, are there plans for a day 1 wrap-up on zoom or indieweb.live ?
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[schmarty] (no one is in the hallway session right now)
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[chrisaldrich] We ought to do a small send off and overview of tomorrow.
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[chrisaldrich] books is wrapping up...
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aaronpk i've got the hallway track open, you're welcome to use it
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GWG Main Hallway Track
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[fluffy] will it be streamed on indieweb.live or whatever?
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[schmarty] is waiting in the hallway all alone. like a kid without a hall pass
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[schmarty] (is no longer alone. party in the hallway!)
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[tantek] Marty, the kid in the hall
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[schmarty] if only!
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GWG I thought it was Zap, not Zayp.
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[schmarty] is it french? zah-piyeh?
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GWG Zap as in what you do with a Bug Zapper
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[scottgruber] Really great day. I’m going to switch off the screen. Be safe. And see you tomorrow.
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joseph_dickson I might hop onto chat later. If not I'll see you all tomorrow.
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paulopinto Sleep Time. Cya tomorrow! Thanks
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[tantek] Going to chill a bit, then prepare dinner and might jump back then
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jgmac1106 great job all and thanks for everyone for the cooking for others session, can’t cook for a crowd withour burning a few dishes first, really appreciated the critical conversation, gonna get my three chreubs in bed and may check in the hallway track later
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KartikPrabhu wait I can't get into the hallway
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aaronpk everyone left
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aaronpk should i turn it back on?
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KartikPrabhu we can wait to see if people come back else no reason to
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gRegorLove chrisaldrich++ GWG++ for organizing a great camp
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gRegorLove facilitators++ for great sessions
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jacky yes
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jacky faciliators++
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gRegorLove [manton] towards the bottom, "consuming read posts" is what I mentioned https://indiebookclub.biz/documentation. Happy to discuss more tomorrow and/or on Github about a quick "want to read" button on others' posts
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gRegorLove Or I forgot it had the individual query string parameters
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gRegorLove KartikPrabhu, you working on anything for your site tomorrow?
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aaronpk was there an evening plan for tonight?
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[jgmac1106] Really excited to watch the read post in the morning.
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aaronpk my evening plan has been archiving videos
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GWG aaronpk: I need to do that too
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aaronpk i'm on it
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gRegorLove [tantek] mentioned he might jump on the hallway video if it was still open / people were around.
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aaronpk they're almost all done
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[jgmac1106] I added a guest book and endorsement today (by removing the invisible tags)
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KartikPrabhu gRegorLove: might improve my hovercard demo or try to get a start on a "dumb" micropub server which only has UI but no posting
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[jgmac1106] Last bed time is 10 edt me. Will see who is still around then...
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aaronpk i'll turn the hallway track back on
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aaronpk indiewebcat is in the hallway track
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KartikPrabhu I'm there too
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[chrisaldrich] aaronpk++ for turnaround on the videos! We can now see the half of camp/sessions we missed. 🙂
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Loqi aaronpk has 37 karma in this channel over the last year (232 in all channels)
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[chrisaldrich] gRegorLove++ for speed and diligence on the etherpad archival
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Loqi gRegorLove has 24 karma in this channel over the last year (80 in all channels)
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aaronpk last video is posted!
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[tantek] hallway track going strong with GWG, KartikPrabhu, me
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[tantek] we had indiewebcat for a bit too
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[chrisaldrich] A very IndieWeb post from Tania Rascia: https://www.taniarascia.com/another-website-redesign/
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petermolnar !tell [scottgruber] it's on the wiki, at https://indieweb.org/2020/West/webmentions-and-automation, Notes -> 'exported JSON [...]'
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jamietanna Looks like IWC West has been going great! Videos being up already is awesome, I think I'm going to spend part of the day watching back on bits I've missed
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jamietanna I may even have something to demo, although it's not been done just over this weekend
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[jgmac1106] morning all...I didn't make the read post session but adding a bookshelf today I think will be my hack day goal.
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[jgmac1106] Would love to present it like the spines on a shelf...and you click on a book and go to the expanded review...too much heavy lifting, probably stick with grid
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[jgmac1106] grrrr I have to turn off native comments....which is the main way my family talks to my kids websites: http://legomaster.jgregorymcverry.com/2020/me-at-the-pool-last-year-with-brothers#comments
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Loqi [jaxpanther] pool isn't going to open this year http://legomaster.jgregorymcverry.com/file/20051a61a79ddbe1275d19e96ecaa634/thumb.jpg
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jbove Thanks for posting the IndieWebCamp West 2020 videos from yesterday online! Catching up with watching them now.
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[jgmac1106] today's hack day project getting delayed by a YouTube Marathon of "Scooter Tricks for Beginners" skate park opened up....might be hacking at different skills today
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rebelle thank you all for yesterday! @jacky and @tantek and everyone who shared (I apologize I don't know the protocol how to tag / direct messages to people)
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rebelle I operate on UK time and I was so tired from staying up the night before, I spent all of yesterday recovering :D
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[jgmac1106] rebelle++
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Loqi rebelle has 3 karma over the last year
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petermolnar rebelle: you just described my morning, and I dropped out early from yesterday...
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rebelle @GWG and [schmarty] it is in fact "zappier like happier" according to what they tweeted!
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[schmarty] 😃
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rebelle (if that's what you were talking about haha)
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petermolnar why does that slogen remind me of Demolition Man?
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rebelle haha hi Peter! are you on UK time as well? didn't expect anyone to be here this early
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petermolnar yes; more specifically Cambridge, UK
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rebelle gotcha
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rebelle I'm in Florida, but for some reason my body is stuck on UK time... maybe my mind is there ;)
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petermolnar it could be worse; living in Singapore, still on UK time
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rebelle I signed up for a Leeds maker meetup because it's the only one I'm awake for!
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rebelle yes that is true ha!
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rebelle is there a way to add a photo here? or is it pulling in from somewhere else?
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aaronpk What is chat names?
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Loqi Chat names is a list of chat regulars sorted by nickname, with their website and usual timezone(s) https://indieweb.org/chat-names
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aaronpk ^
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rebelle thank you!
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rebelle I just found this! I don't know how I missed it before, but I will be educating myself today - https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started
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rebelle really appreciate the welcoming sentiment and Tantek's presentation yesterday, I myself felt like I fell into this as a curious "outsider" but it's really nice to hear that we are all welcome
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jgmac1106 a reaction video micropub client….that would be a hit with my students: https://youtu.be/4f8YEEle40c
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rebelle are teenagers welcome to attend too? I have a 15 year old who is interested!
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sknebel rebelle: sure!
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jgmac1106 yes rebelle my kids a 9 and 6 and we started hack day this morning. here is what Danny & did http://legomaster.jgregorymcverry.com/2020/lego-ship and http://legomaster.jgregorymcverry.com/2020/tree-poem
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Loqi [jaxpanther] First Lego with out instructions http://legomaster.jgregorymcverry.com/file/c00c6e9f7f98134f2c7f1e68935944fe/thumb.jpg
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jgmac1106 ohh and if you want rebelle a bunch of friends and I are starting a remote tech camp for teens.. goes 9-1ish edt drop in…for 13-15 year olds https://www.cfalct.org/tech4teens
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jgmac1106 son welcome to register, realizing my hackday goal needs to evolve to laying out the curriculum for mentors, there are Higher Ed faculty teaching and then we have Yale and SCSU computer science people as mentors
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rebelle oh that is perfect!! he's just been wandering around on the interwebs creating his own education ;)
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rebelle jgmac1106 <3
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jgmac1106 yeah that is kinda the goal “learn how to learn” just don’t tell him
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jgmac1106 website stuff around 9am edt and then coding with block editors at 11…Once registered I can set him up with a website
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jgmac1106 though if he already has one anything with webmentions will do for the program
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jgmac1106 yesterday was an exhausting camp for me…time shifted four hours and then just me and the three boys while my partner works…I think being more inclusive for parents gonna be my 2020-2021 goal
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rebelle wow this camp is really amazing, can I send it to a few friends or is it near "full" already?
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rebelle yes me too, I have a 15 yr old, plus a 1 and 4 year old.... so staying up that first night til 2am was a baaaaad idea haha!
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jgmac1106 there is funding for New Haven, CT students but sure you can send the link to a few friends. Nobody outside of the NH can qualify for the free prizes and laptops
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jgmac1106 so they can participate…just not win is what I am saying
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jgmac1106 wrote a book review…well read post since there is no rating, but need more stuff if I am going to build a booskhelf….has me thinkingI have all this stored in a DB somewhere…can I learn to reuse it instead of rewrite it
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jgmac1106 https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2020/06/28/monument-poems-new-and-selected
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Loqi [Greg McVerry] As momuments of white supremacy get torn down while Trump shouts their virture I thought it a good time to return to Natatsha Trethewey's collection :Monument"Natasha Trethewey paints the past in brutal truths. Her collection of new and curated poems...
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jgmac1106 anyone know of a way to download audible listening history…I have been using simple scrobbler on Android but only until recently
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aaronpk i've added the day 2 hallway link here if anyone wants to hang out while things get started https://indieweb.org/2020/West/Schedule#Sunday
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jgmac1106 got the wiki added for the tech 4 teens curriculum and planning stuff: https://wiki.tech-4-teens.club/doku.php?id=start
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petermolnar jgmac1106: re that youtube link, can someone please do a teens use FrontPage98 for the first time?
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jgmac1106 …omg that would be funny…
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jgmac1106 well taking a quick break to go play pickle with the kids…be back on later to work on the curriculum and a book shelf page…
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[manton] Enjoy day 2 everyone! I’m going to miss it, but thanks again to the organizers and speakers. Lots of good stuff from yesterday for me to think about.
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aaronpk thanks for joining, it was great seeing you yesterday!
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rebelle hey Manton! I love CoreInt - it's one of 2 podcasts I actually actively listen to - wondering if you guys have an easy way to timestamp your topics... since going back through 426 episodes feels slightly impossible ;)
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rebelle (will try and email that to you in case you've left for the day)
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[tantek] Welcome rebelle and definitely check out the hallway track. If you’re worried about age appropriateness etc, we try to make IndieWebCamps and IndieWeb events overall safe for everyone (all ages).
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[tantek] Take a look at the Code of Conduct and feel free to ask any questions in the #indieweb-meta channel. Thanks!
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[manton] @rebelle Thanks for listening! Sure, send us a quick email with what you’re thinking about. We have show notes and basic search on the web site, but not really an index of topics.
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rebelle : confused about hallway track... this? https://indieweb.org/2020/West/2020-West-hallway
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rebelle https://indieweb.live/ ?
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[tantek] What is the hallway track?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "hallway track" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "hallway track is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] aaronpk ^^^ ?
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/2020/West/Schedule#Sunday
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aaronpk first zoom link
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[tantek] hallway track is a virtual room of online IndieWebCamp events without a specific topic where you can come and go as you please, with various ad box conversations, like the hallway outside the rooms at an in-person conference.
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[tantek] just missed it
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aaronpk lol by like 30 seconds
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aaronpk what is the hallway track?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "hallway track" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "hallway track is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] wants a 15 min what is dfn window
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[tantek] hallway track is a virtual room of online IndieWebCamp events without a specific topic where you can come and go as you please, with various ad box conversations, like the hallway outside the rooms at an in-person conference.
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Loqi ok
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[tantek] ad box because autocorrect can’t handle ad hoc 🤦‍♂️
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rebelle @manton sorry now I think I just spammed the Micro.blog timeline! I actually had no idea that was public, it just popped up when I went to Micro.blog so I hit reply. :smackforehead
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[chrisaldrich] Good morning IndieWeb!
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rebelle morning!!
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jmac Howdy folks
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jgmac1106 ohhh reminds me I need to reactivate micro.blog…expired card…worse I lost my legacy google plans….
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jgmac1106 getting closer on the bookshelf: https://codepen.io/smashingmag/pen/xxGKLZO want the img below the title but messing up still
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rebelle would be fun to get a live dj for the next one of these haha
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aaronpk better than me looping this playlist? :D
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rebelle oh I can't hear it!
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rebelle my bad, someone hit mute on my laptop - very relaxing ;)
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jmac jacky: I just now watched your keynote from yesterday, which I put a pin in after Ryan tagged me in his own reaction here. While I backed off my 2018 position of "Arrrghhh let's incorporate right now", I remain keenly interested in discussions about shared meta-project identity and branding, in order to help new audiences navigate the IndieWeb world
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jgmac1106 we kinda had a session on it…”Cooking For Others” It was late in the day for me so its probably a rambling mess but happy to talk about it jmac..really playing with the idea of IndieWeb as an innovation system
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jgmac1106 will do a blog post about my thoughts
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jmac cool
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jmac I'm sorry I had to miss yesterday!
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aaronpk chrisaldrich is kicking things off for the day!
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[tantek] lol mediawiki table markup. nooooooo 😂
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[tantek] ok making a list instead for now: https://indieweb.org/2020/West/Schedule#Projects
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aaronpk 👍
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[Beto] https://jsfiddle.net/6daw2vxb/4/
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[grantcodes] I'm in Spain, but nothing to demo
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jgmac1106 Beto demoing now. Playing with SVGs for cassette tapes to display his music
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jgmac1106 this is so cool, the tape animates as the tape plays
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rebelle supercool Beto!
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jgmac1106 I might have to use this for all my listen posts
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jmac This is delightful.
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[grantcodes] Beto++
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ben_thatmustbeme Beto++
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[tantek] amazing retro design aesthetic!
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[tantek] lol flip to the B-side or a pencil tool to wind it forward or back 😂
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[tantek] *cassette tape club* (!!!)
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GWG That was my reaction, [tantek]
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[Beto] 😄
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[tantek] Demo by Ben
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[tantek] had to restore from the Internet Archive (because his admin erased it)
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[tantek] Demo by Greg, got a guestbook on his website!
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[tantek] Project proposals
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[tantek] Tantek: designing person-tag UX for consent and respect
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[tantek] (re)designing
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[tantek] Greg: Bookshelf on my website
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[tantek] Hibs: Project: Meta-aspect, going in and filling in my wiki page. Going through the beginner steps and making sure I've done them. E.g. /chat-names
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rebelle I would love to join Hibs & Chris - if there's any way other than Slack it would be great
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rebelle but if Slack's the best that's fine :) I just open Slack and have 10000 notifications
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[tantek] rebelle, you're good here in chat 🙂 Slack is just one way to access this
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[tantek] so no need to open Slack 🙈
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rebelle thanks! it's Ki btw :D
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jmac Slack--
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Loqi Slack has -1 karma in this channel over the last year (-2 in all channels)
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rebelle hahahahaha
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Loqi rebelle: lol
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[tantek] lol
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jamietanna Woops I probably could've demo'd!
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jamietanna Although still got a few things I'm tweaking, so maybe later would be best
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[tantek] demos and project planning done for the morning!
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[Beto] ↩️ https://alreadydeadtapes.bandcamp.com/album/already-dead-tape-club
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[tantek] Add what projects you want to work on here: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-West-Projects
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rebelle sweet Beto! https://huff2.bandcamp.com/album/sankalpa is ours
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[tantek] Hallway track is on for anyone who wants to join!
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[chrisaldrich] [scottgruber] Here's a link to the SVG demo from earlier if you want to play around with it: https://jsfiddle.net/6daw2vxb/4/
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rebelle is https://etherpad.indieweb.org/ open for all to use?
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jacky rebelle: more or less! the license is into the public domain IIRC
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[chrisaldrich] Ooops, I tried the wrong account for Zoom... gimme a minute and I'll start another one Hibs
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[hibs] Thanks [chrisaldrich] !
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[chrisaldrich] Ugh, aaronpk or GWG, I'm having some issues getting into 1password for some reason. Could you help me spin up an alternate zoom room?
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Which account, Red, Orange, or Yellow?
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[chrisaldrich] you choose, I think the one up now is the main one? zoom@indieweb.org which I can get into via cookies
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aaronpk hallway track is the main one. feel free to grab any of the others
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aaronpk GWG: you can just choose for him and tell him
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[chrisaldrich] gratzie!
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rebelle IndieWebCamp 2021 in Italy...
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[chrisaldrich] Alright! Hibs, rebelle, and anyone else that would like help getting into and starting out on the IndieWeb wiki can join here: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89605996134?pwd=UkJ0SjZFY0JQdENBdHJQSzcyei82QT09
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[chrisaldrich] I saw Chaitanya on the list as well for ^^
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[chrisaldrich] Rebelle, are you joining us?
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[chrisaldrich] What is wikifying
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Loqi wikifying is the practice of capturing information and ideas on the wiki https://indieweb.org/wikifying
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[Paulo_Pinto] ok
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[chrisaldrich] [Paulo_Pinto]++ for gettting logged into the wiki
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[chrisaldrich] Example template: https://indieweb.org/Template:tantek
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[chrisaldrich] Here's my user page as an example: https://indieweb.org/User:Boffosocko.com
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich]++ great job on the wikifying session, looking forward to hearing your suggestions for improvement!
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rebelle hi Chris! just getting back online, had to take a work break (meaning, work for a bit) and now coming back! :D
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mjordancodes Got added to the chat-names list. seeing if it worked
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[hibs] [chrisaldrich]++ thanks for your super helpful walkthrough on profile setup for the wiki and chat names!
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[mJordan] and if I post thru slack....
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[jgmac1106] Heading back from grocery store to get back to making... can't wait to hear what people work on
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rebelle [chrisaldrich]++ yes thank you so much!
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rebelle btw I'm back but have to stay silent because babies are sleeping behind me ;)
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rebelle is this the chat window you want?
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[chrisaldrich] yes! do you want to go as rebelle for your template?
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rebelle yes please, and yeah I added myself to the chat names page already
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rebelle https://indieweb.org/User:Rebelle.micro.blog
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rebelle very helpful Chris thank you so much!
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rebelle ditto!
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rebelle ^ what Hibs just said! I think knowing we can't break it by accident helps a ton
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rebelle or I mean, break it irreparably ;)
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rebelle What is Loqi?
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Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot/digital therapist present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/Loqi
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rebelle 42?
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rebelle What is Life?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Life" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Life is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[chrisaldrich] rebelle++ for /wikify -ing hibs++
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[chrisaldrich] chaitanya++ for wikifying too!
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mjordancodes Thanks for all the help! chrisaldrich++
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[Chaitanya] Thank you so much! chrisaldrich++
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[chrisaldrich] got dragged away by a small monkey for a bit
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[chrisaldrich] mjordancodes++ for wikifying
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[chrisaldrich] tantek, I'm taking a short "lunch" break but can join on the tagging bit shortly if you're still around.
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petermolnar I decided to continue a project that i've been doing for weeks, namely to restore all the slugs I ever destroyed from my site, and either return a meaning ful return - eg. 410 - or redirect, if applicable. The time I had the most was in 2016; still on WordPress, with my own theme, a plethora of plugins, using composer in the plugin, etc.
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petermolnar Long story short: if you're using a dynamic CMS, backups need to be of EVERYTHING, including the MySQL server version, the PHP version; ALL OF IT.
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petermolnar Alternatively use `wget --mirror`, httrack, or something similar to take "snapshots" of your site, converted to static resources.
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petermolnar othwerise you'll be in my shoes, trying to literally recreate the past
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jgmac1106 petermolnar I was rudely inteerupting my son to tell the woes of erasing his site…I had backups set to once everry 24 hours….thought I was legit….decided to try sftp actions on github to publish to my shared host
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jgmac1106 didnt read the part of removing one line in YAML to stop delete…..the GitHub action ran
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jgmac1106 the site backed up blanked…..and I got chewed out today after Ben’s demo for not restoring all his audio and images
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jgmac1106 sorry that is quite devy but hust wanted to share a tale of petermolnars knowledge…save, save often, save everywhere
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jgmac1106 …regardless my maker day project evolved to finally restoring all his stuff. h/t to @mblaney who helped me restore from a database backup
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] in hallway now too, definitely down for informal lunch chat! I need to go heat up some lunch myself.
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[Paulo_Pinto] A big thank you to Chris for the help chirsaldrich++
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[Paulo_Pinto] A big thank you to Chris for the help chrisaldrich++
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Creating My Own Personal Micropub Client" https://www.jvt.me/posts/2020/06/28/personal-micropub-client/
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[grantcodes] Off to bed now. Enjoy your hacking everyone. Not got a good demo, but an update on what I worked on today: https://grant.codes/2020/06/28/09-30-54
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Loqi [Grant Richmond] #100days 59 - Made a decent amount of progress on the PostrChild extension as my IndieWebCamp project, but still not very near ready for release 😣What I did manage to do was: make the autocompletion system for emoji, blocks and contacts much more ...
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[chrisaldrich] tantek and anyone else interested, here's a Zoom link (Orange Room) for brainstorming person-tags: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/88558333497?pwd=SFVGbGhUcFBkaTVadjRGdG5ZOGhEZz09
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jacky [grantcodes]++
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[chrisaldrich] reading scrollback while I wait for [tantek] to finish in autoauth... if anyone has WordPress questions in the meanwhile I'm in the Orange room (link just above)
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[chrisaldrich] rebelle, I think this is the question you were looking for:
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[chrisaldrich] What is the answer to life?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "answer to life" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "answer to life is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[chrisaldrich] I'm so disappointed Loqi....
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[chrisaldrich] What is the meaning of Life?
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Loqi The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything is … 42 https://indieweb.org/meaning_of_life
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GWG What is 42?
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Loqi The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything is … 42 https://indieweb.org/42
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GWG I'll take Potent Potables for $1000
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joseph_dickson Anyone good at debugging an h-card? I'm trying to figure out why my attempt at one in my footer didn't communicate my image in a webmention.
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joseph_dickson https://www.linuxbookpro.com/h-card-test-to-chris-aldrich/
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joseph_dickson the hcard is the 8-bit image in the footer
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KartikPrabhu demos in an hour?
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[KevinMarks] joseph - I think you may need the author h-card to have the same u-url as the footer one for authorship to work
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joseph_dickson Okay I'm trying to wrap my head around that
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[KevinMarks] http://www.unmung.com/mf2?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linuxbookpro.com%2Fh-card-test-to-chris-aldrich%2F&html=&pretty=on
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Loqi [Joseph Dickson] h-card test to Chris Aldrich
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joseph_dickson I think I follow
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[KevinMarks] you have an h-card in the post and one in the footer (the one in the post is labelled with vcard, which is mf1 backcompat for h-card)
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joseph_dickson gotcha the one in the post is probably created from the WordPress plugin... I'm thinking I should test this on a static site :)
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[KevinMarks] indiewebify may be easier: https://indiewebify.me/validate-h-entry/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linuxbookpro.com%2Fh-card-test-to-chris-aldrich%2F
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joseph_dickson okay that sets me on the right path
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[KevinMarks] the author-bio div looks like the right one to label with p-author h-card
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GWG joseph_dickson: The one in the WordPress plugin could probably use some design work
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joseph_dickson the debugger is very useful. I'm making progress.
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joseph_dickson https://indiewebify.me/validate-h-card/?url=http://linuxbookpro.com
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[KevinMarks] http://www.unmung.com/?html=%3Cdiv+class%3D%22author-bio+p-author+h-card%22%3E%3Cdiv+class%3D%22author-title-wrapper%22%3E%3Cdiv+class%3D%22author-avatar%22%3E%0D%0A%3Cnoscript%3E%3Cimg%0D%0Aalt+src%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fsecure.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fff82e29adc3eb0d96a02b55b7646e9d9%3Fs%3D160%26%23038%3Bd%3Dmm%26%23038%3Br%3Dg%22+srcset%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fsecure.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fff82e29adc3eb0d96a02b55b7646e9d9%3Fs%3D320%26%23038%3Bd%3Dmm%
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Loqi [KevinMarks]: would you mind moving this conversation to #indieweb-dev? thanks!
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[KevinMarks] %3E%09%09%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E&pretty=on
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[KevinMarks] fair, loqi
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[chrisaldrich] more than a handful of % symbols gets you every time...
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[chrisaldrich] kevinmarks++ for helping to troubleshoot
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Loqi kevinmarks has 19 karma in this channel over the last year (72 in all channels)
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joseph_dickson I'll move this thread of questions to #indieweb-dev
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[KevinMarks] aaron's links are cleaner
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joseph_dickson whomever wrote this script at indieweebify.me is my personal hero right now
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joseph_dickson the inspectors are extremely useful on pulling out the broken bits and offering fixes
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[chrisaldrich] joseph_dickson, I've been working a bit today on a post about how to improve the default mf1 markup in WordPress core for mf2 support which will give you a more IndieWeb /friendly experience. It'll be a few days until it's finished, but hopefully it will be basic enough that even a beginning WordPress developer could add it to a theme.
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Some of the issues I pointed out in my post a few years ago...
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[chrisaldrich] Perhaps someone with more core experience could use it to push an update to core to create better experience for everyone regardless of theme.
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: They rejected it last time, but it may get a different response this time.
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[chrisaldrich] GWG I started with your article and some examples from Sempress and a few other friendly themes and my work on the 2015 child theme I'm using.
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GWG I doubt it though. Too...off
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[chrisaldrich] Did the rejection include an actual pull request?
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joseph_dickson I got the hcard to work according to the debugger and only received a single error when I posted the second comment that time
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[chrisaldrich] or just the idea of adding it? I can't imagine any broad spectrum issues for backcompat...
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Removing the hentry from WordPress was deemed too problematic due incorrect CSS styling.
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GWG But, with the time issue I outline, I want to make sure rarst didn't fix it. There are all these new time functions he introduced
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GWG rarst++
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[chrisaldrich] then don't remove hentry, but move h-entry to a correct/better place maybe?
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Problem there being if you have hentry and h-entry on different elements...
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[chrisaldrich] parsers will ignore the mf1 though right? (suggest we move to #indieweb-wordpress or #indieweb-dev if we continue on, but this may be better later after demos) unless Joe needs more help. 🙂
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GWG We can, but it won't.
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joseph_dickson well i got the h-card working so that's good enough to demo... I'll work through the issues in WP later.
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jacky that's high praise for the tool; joseph_dickson! :)
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[schmarty] demos in 12 minutes?
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[KevinMarks] indiewebify is a great tool.
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aaronpk countdown is running in the hallway track!
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[David_Bryant] Do we put links & info for demos in an etherpad like we did for site demos yesterday morning?
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gRegorLove Demos going to be on livestream?
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aaronpk yep! https://indieweb.live is up now
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[schmarty] pinging chrisaldrich! it's demo time in the demo room! 😄
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[schmarty] ah nvm i see he has appeared as Orange IndieWeb 😄
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[schmarty] an etherpad for demos: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-West-Demos
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gRegorLove Can't hear [schmarty] if he's talking?
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[schmarty] i was so muted 😭
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gRegorLove love the sandbox idea, that's rad
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[KevinMarks] I liek it too - I was tryign this on glitch beore but found ti hard to tell if the user was the project owner
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[KevinMarks] I like the not quite micropub tool - it's a bit like what I do in noterlive
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[KevinMarks] invitation spam << the positive pattern is Fruiting - don't send the seed, wrap it in something tasty http://epeus.blogspot.com/2008/06/how-not-to-be-viral.html