#indieweb 2020-07-02

2020-07-02 UTC
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[tantek]
lol is that like stealth mention of js;dr?
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krjst
i just noticed that some documentation generators are doing client side rendering. this is going really bad.
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jacky
yeahh I've been on a bit of a riff about this
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jacky
people really don't care and think that the Web only lives within Google Chrome (it's a miracle if they even acknowledge other Web browsers)
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vilhalmer
can't imagine where they'd get that ida
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vilhalmer
I never imagined the future where I would miss internet explorer
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[ColinMorris]
Someone just needs to write a Chrome extension that runs Lynx in browser, then they’ll acknowledge the ecosystem.
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jacky
vilhalmer: lol!
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vilhalmer
if someone compiles lynx for webassembly I will lose my mind
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jacky
if you tweet it; it'll happen
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Loqi
[Chris Aldrich] German shepherd to owner: Of course I know my fur is all over the couch! It’s called fur-niture!! Lily hiding behind the couch as I’m cleaning all the cushions. https://i1.wp.com/boffosocko.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/20190223_164455.jpg?resize=660%2C495&ssl=1
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lahacker
after watching the "Tag, You're It" session and sitting in on the (unrecorded) AutoAuth discussion I feel like they (@-mentions, photo-tagging, private posts, etc) were both blocking on closely related non-technical UX
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lahacker
it's like several simple building blocks need to be built at the same time but we need to know about one to guide the other
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KartikPrabhu
hmm what's the simplest one to build?
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lahacker
i'd love to have a "Get things done" session but i fear without the necessary preparation we won't be able to just tackle it
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lahacker
well i think the current state of things is that we don't quite understand the problem
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lahacker
the harm cases in particular
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KartikPrabhu
might be more useful if it is a "get <this> done" where <this> is some specific topic which might generate more interest/motivation
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lahacker
i think we're having a hard time identifying that thing that needs to be done
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lahacker
like people who have experienced discrimination and/or marginalization through technology -- victims of broken tech -- need to describe their problems
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lahacker
and i'm sure someone somewhere has written about these topics
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lahacker
but i'm not aware
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KartikPrabhu
hmm right. collect use-cases/research
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lahacker
correct, step 1
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lahacker
because all of those features are one person poking at another
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lahacker
I believe Aaron summarized the AutoAuth during demos -- Sven's AutoAuth is technically correct but we weren't sure if someone should just get notifications of an @-mention or if there should be some kind of request for @-mentioning
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lahacker
the harm case being mobbed by jerks and your notifications system gets DOSed by hate
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lahacker
which is tech and UX very much different and yet related
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lahacker
some have mentioned lists of approved people
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lahacker
so figuring out whatever /that/ thing is that's block /those/ kinds of features
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lahacker
whatever that is -- that might be a good session
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[asuh]
Following up on [KevinMarks] Twitter link yesterday, the tweet author wrote an article follow up on his question.
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[KevinMarks]
@lahacker we have talked about this with /vouch before
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "Indigenous for iOS, IndieWeb and ActivityPub for Drupal" https://realize.be/blog/indigenous-ios-indieweb-and-activitypub-drupal
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jacky
oh wow ^
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jacky
swentel++ congrats
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Loqi
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jacky
this makes the want to refactor into a library more compelling :)
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swentel
thanks
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swentel
heh indeed :)
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swentel
like I explained in that issue you created: indigenous will start supporting 'account types', e.g. mastodon, pixelfed, whatever
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swentel
so these things need to be more agnostic/pluggable
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omz13
swentel ++
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Loqi
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omz13
I was beginning to wonder what was happening with Indigenous for iOS. Good to hear its revived.
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swentel
yep, that's somewhere in august/beginning of september
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swentel
will do the most important bug fixes first
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swentel
and then new features
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