#indieweb 2020-07-03

2020-07-03 UTC
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[jgmac1106] Morning all. Reminder if you are gonna blog about IWC West try to make it in newsletter
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zerok hi :D
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petermolnar My reader is yet again fairly empty today, as it has been for a decade. An interesting realization came to me with it: publishers are eternal compared to individual blogs. The idea of following a single, specific person, and not a topic, or a column in a paper, which was brought by the internet mainly, is the very reason why I keep spending an insane time on trying to find new sources once the old dried up - and they do. They always dr
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petermolnar y up.
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petermolnar somewhat -chat, somewhat not, because we're all in this together, publishing our own self into the wild, which is great for us, the content providers, but is it great for us, the content readers?
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[jeremycherfas] Is that a call for an aggregator? I like being my own aggregator and also subscribing to a few other aggregator sites.
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petermolnar more of a philosophical question, I'm open for a discussion. So many people I followed stopped at some point in their life, and occasionally it's trying to keep digging for new things to read.
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petermolnar aggregators != publishers though; the latter has editors, curators, etc; while the first is reader driven
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[jeremycherfas] I think of aggregators as being a little more open than publishers. A site like Atlas Obscura is sort of a publisher, and has far more stuff than I want to read. But there is at least one thing a week that I do want to read.
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[jeremycherfas] Even something like Waxy or Gordon’sNotes usually has something every few days.
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[jeremycherfas] People’s weeknotes are also often very interesting sources of things to read.
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[chrisaldrich] What is discovery?
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Loqi Discovery is a variety of methods for finding content, websites, communities, or people to follow on the web including search, directories, recommendation engines, tags, or other serendipitous methods https://indieweb.org/discovery
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GWG Anyone want to +1 a session? https://indieweb.org/2020/Pop-up/Sessions
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[tantek] petermolnar definitely on topic for here
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[tantek] the problem is literally the UX model and design and assumptions of FEED readers
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[tantek] feeds dry up. people don't (at least not for many years on average 🙂
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[tantek] IMO your "reader" (actually feed reader) is fairly empty because it's modeled around feeds which do indeed dry up as people take breaks, switch to publishing in different places etc.
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[tantek] This is a key reason why *social readers* must be people centric and not feed-centric (I feel like I'm still fighting this battle in #indieweb-dev / Microsub etc.)
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[KevinMarks] This is where rel-me links can be useful to gather the other feeds for a person
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[KevinMarks] Remember this? http://epeus.blogspot.com/2006/07/calling-off-search-continued.html
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[chrisaldrich] I like the people focus you mention there kevinmarks. (psst... you've still got a G+ link on your pages there)
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[tantek] what is Bloggers Using This Tag?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Bloggers Using This Tag" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Bloggers Using This Tag is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] KevinMarks can you document that ^^^? Was it service specific? Which service(s)? etc. even if legacy, it's worth capturing it as a discoverable UI pattern on the wiki. with obviously a citation to your blog post 🙂
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[chrisaldrich] tantek, it was in a redesign of /Technorati apparently. Could be an interesting /discovery feature for IndieWeb.
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[tantek] oh gosh, how much I've forgotten.
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