#indieweb 2020-07-23

2020-07-23 UTC
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[chrisaldrich] Welcome to the IndieWeb chat ndegruchy. There are a bunch of WordPress folks over in the #indieweb-wordpress channel if you want to join us. 🙂
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[chrisaldrich] I've started up the stream for HWC West Coast for those who'd like to join in 10 minutes: https://events.indieweb.org/2020/07/homebrew-website-club-west-coast-f8CnQ4G73wMq
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "People Seem Confused about IndieAuth" https://david.shanske.com/2020/07/22/people-seem-confused-about-indieauth/
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich]++
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Loqi [chrisaldrich] has 25 karma in this channel over the last year (58 in all channels)
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] I'm about to do the last intro at HWC West and then we're taking a photo if you want to pop back in for a photo!
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[chrisaldrich] Wish I could, thanks for checking tho
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[tantek] :thumbsup_all:
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[tantek] GWG++ great post! https://david.shanske.com/2020/07/22/people-seem-confused-about-indieauth/
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Loqi GWG has 30 karma in this channel over the last year (134 in all channels)
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prologic So I added a new feature to https://twtxt.net/ to improve discoverability. Basically the server now tracks new potential followers by parsing the twtxt User-Agent (if valid) and posts this on a special feed by the username of `twtxt` (which you can follow if you want). In addition your own "Followers" list gets updated with this over time.
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[pfefferle] @prologic is the “<text> ⌘ <url>” syntax specified or is this something you simply do?
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prologic [pfefferle] What do you mean?
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[pfefferle] you are using ⌘ for the xkcd feed
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[pfefferle] between text and permalink
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souramoo hey all, am trying to get started with the indieweb, it all looks very exciting! managed to register (first name).com this year!
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souramoo have been building out my site using 11ty (a static site generator) and then hosting it in a cloud storage bucket (so it stays fast, and is super cheap and takes advantage of existing cdn infrastructure)
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souramoo i was playing around with how best to design navigation around my blog, what do you think of this design pattern? https://gfycat.com/downrightpettydromedary (clicking back to article list goes to the exact page the article is in archives and highlights it to maintain continuity)
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[grantcodes] That's very cool. Does it work if you hit the back button too?
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prologic [pfefferle] I think that's coming from xkcd's feed itself
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prologic not somethin gI'm doing I don't think
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Zegnat I think that is something you are doing, prologic. Let me move that conversation to #indieweb-dev though :)
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beko 'Your hosted microblog trial will expire in -100 days.' - I guess that's some kind of anniversary too xD
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ndegruchy At least it didn't overflow into a negative signed 64-bit number :o
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beko :o
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[Zegnat] Was that text from an actual email or some other notification, beko? [manton] might be interested in that case
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beko [Zegnat]: straight from the website and I'm aware that I have no valid subscription. Just amused by the very programmatic wording
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Zegnat Just wanted to confirm :) I hoped to the IndieWeb Slack so I would be able to @-mention manton. You never know, might be a super quick fix on his end.
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[manton] Whoops. Thanks for letting me know. I’ll fix that. 🙂
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beko :D
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ndegruchy I'm kind of surprised that the IndieWeb "official" chat is on Slack rather than Matrix or XMPP :p
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aaronpk it's on IRC
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beko It's not. It's on the IRC.
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ndegruchy Oh, IRC is the official?
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beko Bridges everywhere.. Bridge all zhe thingz
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ndegruchy Jacksonville has quite enough bridges thank-you-very-much.
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beko That's meatspace, no?
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ndegruchy Quite. I suppose the internet really is just comprised of bridges of one sort or another
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beko There is btw a Matrix bridge and a Discord as well but I stopped using it because that was really one bridge too far
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ndegruchy ha
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ndegruchy Matrix is alright, but IRC is sufficient for my needs
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ndegruchy Discord is just... no
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ndegruchy I did finally get ahold of Yarmo on XMPP, though
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beko may want to continue in #indieweb-chat :)
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ndegruchy fair
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GWG Hi, ndegruchy. I think I read your reply.
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ndegruchy GWG: In regards to? (sorry, don't know all the nicks in the indieweb group)
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GWG IndieAuth yesterday
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ndegruchy Ah! Yeah
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ndegruchy it's an awesome plugin. It "Just Works", which is more than I can say for a lot of WordPress plugins.
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Jibbles Hello! I'm new. Baby new. Realized I don't enjoy social media but do enjoy editing my website, and see this as the best of both worlds. But. Dumb. Self proclaimed dumb. I have my own website already and am an Actor. I made this website with Wix, which is user friendly and I've enjoyed it. Is there a way to attach Known or Wordpress to make the social media syndicates/parallel posting and commenting I've seen happen through the Wix new blog format? Or
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Jibbles will I need to build a different website to do that, and simply link it to my existing website? I'd like to have it all in one spot, but understand Wix might have some barriers. Haven't found anything in the forums on this specific issue when trying to start. Thanks!
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GWG ndegruchy: If it does not, I want to fix it
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GWG What is Wix?
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Loqi Wix is a point-and-click website creation service https://indieweb.org/Wix
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GWG I don't know much about it, but someone noted no
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Jibbles how. the heck. did I never find this page. appologies, thank you!
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ndegruchy GWG: I'll let you know if I find anything wrong with it. Mostly I just turn it on and login to stuff.
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GWG ndegruchy: I worry about compromising people's security. I always am trying to harden the plugin
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ndegruchy GWG: Understandable. Authentication is simultaneously easy and hard. Easy to do, hard to do right. Relying on WordPress for login is a smart play, though, because that mechanism is much more battle tested
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GWG I can be quite obsessive, even when chrisaldrich isn't egging me on to add things like moon phases
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ndegruchy GWG: The only issue I've encountered with IndieAuth is deleting tokens doesn't seem to work from the individual item link, you have to use the bulk actions form.
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GWG ndegruchy: Will check
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ndegruchy That could also be my own website, too
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GWG I usually assume me
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ndegruchy I hear you on the obsessive. I contribute some modules to WP Toolbelt and I hem and haw over design decisions that would normally be straight forward. I want to make it as right as I know how.
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: I'll try to do better about signalling my level of sarcasm better. (Not that moon phases aren't awesome, but there are so many more important things you could be working on...)
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[chrisaldrich] ndegrunchy++ for that toolbelt thing. I looked at it briefly the other day, but need to delve into it a bit more.
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Loqi ndegrunchy has 1 karma over the last year
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ndegruchy Thanks! It's not my project, but I liked it enough to contribute, so I feel kind of proud of it.
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: I don't mind
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GWG It was a fun challenge
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GWG And you are using it
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GWG Also, I beat aaronpk to posting moon phase on his site...I think
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GWG We're all trying to keep up with aaronpk
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[chrisaldrich] The Zoom link for the DoOO session this morning is live: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85012018919?pwd=VEE2UDNTWTZ6c0FNK1Q4cDZjbHd2dz09 | https://boffosocko.com/2020/07/11/a-domain-of-ones-own-meetup-july-23-2020/
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[jgmac1106] this is cool: https://mist.sites.grinnell.edu/
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[jgmac1106] seeing an elgg demo [benatwork]
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[jgmac1106] yep to get around firewall in china..maybe
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[benatwork] Whut
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[benatwork] In 2020?!
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[benatwork] Wowzers
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[benatwork] That's amazing, and I'm actually pretty proud of that. We started work on Elgg 17 years ago.
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[jgmac1106] at this: https://boffosocko.com/2020/07/11/a-domain-of-ones-own-meetup-july-23-2020/
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Configure GoatCounter with Caddy 2" https://www.kappawingman.com/posts/webdev/2020/07/23/configure-goatcounter-with-caddy-2/
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anarchivist i came across a comment form recently that was a comment form/webmention implementation that allowed (semi?)anonymous comments - does this ring a bell for anyone?
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[jgmac1106] [benatwork] here was a comment from someone else "Elgg! That takes me back - to when I was first using blogging with students & we used Elgg ! It was so powerful & ahead of its time"
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[benatwork] Awww
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anarchivist (per my query i don't think it was voxpelli's webpage-webmentions; and i think it was a run as service?)
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[chrisaldrich] anarchivist, maybe you're thinking about commentpara.de? A few people like jacky use it for comments on their site. Example: see bottom of https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/1149bdd8-a3ac-43b8-b15e-94387bc136d7
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Loqi [Jacky Alciné] An Idea on Following People (or Organizations or Whomever) in the IndieWeb for Lwa
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[chrisaldrich] What is commentpara.de?
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Loqi commentpara.de is an anonymous commenting system for the indieweb https://indieweb.org/commentpara.de
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[chrisaldrich] Our middle of the day DoOO Meetup session went really well. I think we had about 18 people show up. I saw some demos of things that I've never encountered at Homebrew Website Clubs, so it was awesome just for that!
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ndegruchy GoatCounter looks like a really nice project. I'm going to try it out and probably sponsor him. Hard to find good, ethical toosl
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ndegruchy tools*
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jacky needs to check if commentpara.de allows for sending a message body so I can make that flow a little bit less work?
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anarchivist [chrisaldrich]: yes, indeed it is. thanks! :)
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jamietanna jacky what do you mean wrt commentpara.de message body?
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jamietanna (https://commentpara.de/comment/494.htm is an example of a reply to one of my posts)
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Loqi [Charles MERLEN] The proxy not need the "http://" prefix ! As mentionned into the Documentation of Openssl, host:port is required. : openssl s_client -showcerts -connect "jvt.me:443" -proxy proxy.example.com:8888 ...
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[KevinMarks] !tell adactio the url at the end of the nhm edition of your podcast gives me a cert error in chrome
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Publ 0.6.6, Authl 0.4.0" https://publ.plaidweb.site/blog/85-Publ-0-6-6-Authl-0-4-0
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Pushl v0.3.0, and some terminology changes" https://publ.plaidweb.site/blog/745-Pushl-v0-3-0-and-some-terminology-changes
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://publ.plaidweb.site/blog/281-Publ-v0-6-7
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Publ v0.6.4, now with attachments" https://publ.plaidweb.site/blog/738-Publ-v0-6-4-now-with-attachments
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://publ.plaidweb.site/blog/467-Publ-v0-6-5
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[chrisaldrich] What is live streaming?
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Loqi live streaming is the practice of streaming media (mostly audio or video) live as the captured event is happening https://indieweb.org/live_streaming
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[Will_Monroe] ↩️ Thank you for organizing that event [chrisaldrich]!
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[tantek] [benatwork] Elgg is one of my "featured" Arctic archive on GitHub lol
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[tantek] update on the Tumblr blog situation
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[tantek] I waited til it expired to see what happened
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[tantek] clicked the link in the email to "refresh" or "recover" or whatever it was anyway
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[tantek] got to the web and got a message saying it's too late but my content is still here
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[tantek] made me create a new password
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[tantek] was renamed to previous name with a -blog on the end
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[tantek] was able to edit the blog name in settings back to what it was before
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[tantek] what a totally useless exercise
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[tantek] Tumblr--
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Loqi Tumblr has -1 karma over the last year