#indieweb 2020-08-21

2020-08-21 UTC
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KartikPrabhu apparently, you can get your twitter feed into Feedly now
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KartikPrabhu https://blog.feedly.com/get-tweets-in-feedly/
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jacky that's interesting
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jacky hmm I actually like this approach a lot
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jacky it looks like it's optimizing for tweets with links
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[snarfed] a number of readers have supported twitter natively for a while now, eg newsblur and i think others
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sknebel yeah, Inoreader does too
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[spieper] and Feedbin
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Uglystepchild What dies this room help accomplish?
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GWG That's a broad question
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[tantek] what is this room
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "this room" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "this room is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] This room is one of several [[discuss]]ion channels for the IndieWeb community, see the [[discuss#Chat_Channels_Purposes|channel descriptions]] for the focus and purpose of each room.
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Loqi ok
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[tantek] Currently I put all my posts in my home stream and I'm considering finally dropping some. In particular I'm considering dropping comments on GitHub issues which make very little sense out of context (even with a reply-context)
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[tantek] Curious how others choose what to put or not put on their home stream
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aaronpk what is home stream?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "home stream" yet. Would you like to create it?_ (Or just say "home stream is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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mayakate[m] I'm trying to deemphasize streams at all, though that's inevitably how my PESOS content is presented.
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mayakate[m] * I'm trying to deemphasize streams as much as possible, though that's inevitably how my PESOS content is presented.
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[snarfed] tantek++ agreed. i only put original posts in my stream, no interactions (likes reposts etc), and no “evergreen” pages like https://snarfed.org/mac-setup
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Loqi tantek has 23 karma in this channel over the last year (112 in all channels)
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[grantcodes] I follow that general rule too
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aaronpk same, except that I consider reposts not just a response, so they do go on my home page
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jacky I'm looking at doing a small netcast
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jacky (probably twice a month)
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jacky and wow, the work to make it 'discoverable' in directories is a bit annoying/interesting
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jacky I wonder who runs rss.com but I was reading https://rss.com/blog/how-to-create-an-rss-feed-for-a-podcast/
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jacky hmm actually
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jacky like I knew the value of directories
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jacky but this is making me more interested
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jacky I wish the directories were more 'push' versus 'import' (if that makes sense)
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sknebel not to me :D what do you mean by that?
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jacky like instead of having to go to them to register and all this stuff
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jacky that I can use something like a webmention to do 'registration' and then it pulls from my site
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jacky I think the latter is what most places do anyway
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sknebel ah
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jacky but the former is what I want lol
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sknebel gotcha
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jacky I have thoughts on this obviously
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jacky but I'm starting to also wonder if social readers should have a set of directories built in to 'prime' one's channels
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jacky the only thing is giving proper 'context' as to what should show up where
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ndegruchy Isn’t that what websub is? A more aggressive hub that pulls in content as it is posted to help relay that to subscribers?
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[fluffy] Sort of? It’s more of a push notification proxy.
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[fluffy] But some hubs do their own polling as well.
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aaronpk yeah websub is not at all about aggregation or discovery
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[fluffy] Like in theory a websub hub could do that stuff but it’s absolutely not the intention.
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aaronpk right
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aaronpk and there's definitely privacy concerns of a hub doing that, potentially leaking private feeds for example
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[fluffy] Oh yeah that too. I’ve gotten used to the idea that private feeds will have to be handled differently to begin with (but that’s #dev talk)
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aaronpk in the future yes ideally
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jacky yeah if anything a microsub server would be the one handling the feed polling and would be in some cases be a websub client
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aaronpk but there's lots of existing "private" feeds today
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aaronpk more like "secret"
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jacky yeah def 'secret'
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jacky please-dont-share-this-token
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aaronpk super common in the podcast world
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[fluffy] Yeah. And various APIs, like Netflix used to have one that used RSS with embedded tokens in the URL.
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[fluffy] Ok this is really #dev talk now though
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jacky lol
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[tantek] snarfed, aaronpk exactly! and we're all doing it a bit differently so that's worth documenting and why
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[KevinMarks] https://twitter.com/benthompson/status/1296889185190596608?s=20
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@benthompson I am admittedly puzzled as to why Apple is denying me updates to the open source app for my open source web site because one user of that app happens to sell domains. Also, I thought Apple wasn’t going to hold bug updates hostage anymore? https://twitter.com/photomatt/status/1296879217297113088 (twitter.com/_/status/1296889185190596608)
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jacky nah okay
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jacky this can't be only me noticing this as a potential bug in the wiki
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jacky actually #-meta
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