#indieweb 2020-09-06

2020-09-06 UTC
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[tantek] email << 2020-09-02 Krebs on Security: [https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/09/the-joys-of-owning-an-og-email-account/ The Joys of Owning an ‘OG’ Email Account] — lots of warnings about mistakes people make with email signing up for services, recovery email, and a good [[SMS]] debate in the comments.
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Loqi ok, I added "2020-09-02 Krebs on Security: [https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/09/the-joys-of-owning-an-og-email-account/ The Joys of Owning an ‘OG’ Email Account] — lots of warnings about mistakes people make with email signing up for services, recovery email, and a good [[SMS]] debate in the comments." to the "See Also" section of /email https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=72543&oldid=72540
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[James_Gallaghe] Is it just me or is the “confirm email address” feature not working?
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[tantek] Pretty sure the email feature as a whole is disabled
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[tantek] Maybe we can troubleshoot in #indieweb-meta
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hirusi[m] Is there any existing resource on... people using the IndieWeb to, err... spread hate? I'm intentionally being vague
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hirusi[m] Is there a viewpoint on this? An official stand?
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Zegnat hirusi[m]: I am certain there are people who have their own domains and host their own websites and write things that would generally be against our CoC. So they may not be super welcome within the IndieWeb community channels and events. Whether that still makes them part of the IndieWeb I guess is up to definitions of IndieWeb.
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hirusi[m] Oh there is a CoC? Where?
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hirusi[m] Got it. https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct
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Zegnat Is also linked in the channel topic ... is that visible on Matrix?
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hirusi[m] Ah, sorry, it is. :)
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Zegnat Goodie!
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petermolnar which product was the one with something like "you can't use this for evil" in it's terms & conditions?
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Zegnat JSON
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Zegnat http://www.json.org/license.html - "The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil."
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Zegnat Are you thinking of that one, petermolnar?
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[tantek] lol, without a citation of what they evaluate as good vs evil that will be applied for both
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[tantek] everyone is the (good) hero of their own narrative
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Zegnat It is literally just that one line in their license. Means very little. But has lead to some interesting open-source debates. I might collect some more of them on /JSON if I remember any specific ones.
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sknebel I think the most famous bit about that is that IBM lawyers asked for (and received) an exception to that clause
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Zegnat I know PHP had a discussion. Debian too, maybe? Sure has had some interesting outfall
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Zegnat There was also the ethical license thing that came by last week. Might have been jacky who linked it
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Zegnat petermolnar: another one that you may have thought of though not specifically anti-evil and going slightly more for defining what it believes to be evil https://anticapitalist.software/
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Zegnat jacky++ for being the source for that one
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Loqi jacky has 26 karma in this channel over the last year (116 in all channels)
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petermolnar I kinda wanted to tie that in to the previous discussion, as in what are people using IndieWeb for
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petermolnar because I don't think it's possible put lids on IndieWeb tech
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petermolnar it'd be like standard saying what they can be used for; and, apart from JSON's licence, I'm not aware of these kind of criterias
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petermolnar (community, IWC, etc is a different topic)
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[KevinMarks] Facebook << “From the perspective of Facebook, troll farms thus exist to shit metrics. They might as well be printing money. Financially speaking, they have zero incentive to shut them down.” https://holly.substack.com/p/oceans-of-blood-on-his-hands
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Loqi ok, I added "“From the perspective of Facebook, troll farms thus exist to shit metrics. They might as well be printing money. Financially speaking, they have zero incentive to shut them down.” https://holly.substack.com/p/oceans-of-blood-on-his-hands" to the "See Also" section of /Facebook https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=72546&oldid=72042
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Batzy b/3
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