#indieweb 2020-09-20

2020-09-20 UTC
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nekr0z
I beautified (a tiny bit) person-mentions on my site - https://evgenykuznetsov.org/en/posts/2020/indieweb-glue/ I am very proud of it, being neither a programmer nor a web developer by trade.
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Loqi
[Evgeny Kuznetsov] Leveraging IndieWeb to Avoid Storing Others' Data
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nekr0z
But there are two words I can't get out of my head ever since: "browser plugin"
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[Chaitanya]
nekr0z: that came out pretty good!
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nekr0z
[Chaitanya]: Thanks!
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petermolnar
[snarfed]++ for that post
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Loqi
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VioletPixel
Which post?
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petermolnar
it's an interesting chain of thoughts
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petermolnar
and from many perspective, I'd agree with it - had musician had the way of selling every album of their on bandcamp, we won't have a need for second hand music, from which the artists don't benefit
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petermolnar
these days, with most music venues still closed in the UK, it'd certainly make a difference
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VioletPixel
Ah, yeah, I saw that go by earlier. It is interesting to think about things that way. It would be nice to live in a world that rewarded creative people more for their work by striking a better balance between the work the do and the value people get from it.
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[jgmac1106]
not sure artists don't benefit from secondary sales, caveat almost all the artists I listen allow and encourage audience taping and sharing music for fee
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[jgmac1106]
but to me right to sell is connected to right to repair. I buy art I want to own it not license it
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[jgmac1106]
I buy a tractor John Deere shouldn't be able to tell me I can't repair it, just wrong
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[jgmac1106]
physical media IS better for artists currently in 2015 LP sales paid out 416 million in royalties...versus 385 in streaming royalties....the LP sales a fraction of the sales
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[jgmac1106]
Streaming is 80% of music revenue, physical media about 9%....but physical media pays out more in royalties.
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[jgmac1106]
around 8 billion in streaming revenue in 2019
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[jgmac1106]
To me Own Your Media also about feeding our artists
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[jgmac1106]
....now I really need to get me music back on my website and looking for a solution. I was using OwnCloud but they only allow a 1,000 folders.
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[jgmac1106]
I might just throw them all in a folder and not even bother with an interface..I use subsonic to stream on Android from my server...I did like the tools the OwnCloud music apps had
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Zegnat
Good morning IndieWeb
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nekr0z
Regarding artists and music, I can't help but remember something a famous Russian singer/sogwriter Boris Grebenschikov said in an interview about 5 years ago:
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nekr0z
"The author who used to want everybody to hear his song is not destroying his music with his own hands (I've seen the authors throwing "counterfeit" disks under a bulldozer on TV) so that people that didn't pay money to the author wouldn't listen to it. It turns out the music exists only to make money for its author! That's quite a perverted understanding of both authorship and music, if you ask me."
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nekr0z
(my translation, not literally, but fairly close)
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nekr0z
*... is NOW destroying...
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Zegnat
nekr0z++ for the person tagging! I saw it come by in #indieweb-meta yesterday and it looked real nice
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Loqi
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Zegnat
Considered putting it on news.indieweb.org so the newsletter will pick it up??
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nekr0z
Zegnat: am considering it now. I'm a little bit uncomfortable so shamelessly promoting it though :)
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Zegnat
IndieNews I think basically only goes to the newsletter and to Slack. So do not see it as self-promoting, see it as sharing with the IndieWeb community :D
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nekr0z
Hmmm... I have indienews in my RSS reader, I thought people did that, too :_
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Zegnat
Oh, maybe people do! I do not because I always see the IndieNews posts show on IRC already
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "Leveraging IndieWeb to Avoid Storing Others' Data" https://evgenykuznetsov.org/en/posts/2020/indieweb-glue/
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nekr0z
There, my first IndieNews entry. Blame Zegnat :))))
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[jgmac1106]
nekr0z agree I think openly licensed music can be profitable because the focus isn't on profit.. "Old Town Road" anyone?
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Loqi
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Loqi
[indienews/ru] New post: "Зачем хранить чужие данные, если есть IndieWeb?" https://evgenykuznetsov.org/posts/2020/indieweb-glue/
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