#indieweb 2020-10-02

2020-10-02 UTC
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KartikPrabhu what is Jekyll
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Loqi Jekyll is Ruby software that helps you create "Simple, blog-aware, static sites" suitable for static domain hosting https://indieweb.org/Jekyll
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Ruxton looks like FB have stopped embedding aussie news sites from the major news orgs they're at war with
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Ruxton the link parser just ignores them
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Displaying Webmentions on My Site" https://jamesg.blog/2020/10/02/displaying-webmentions-on-my-site.html
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petermolnar what is blog-aware?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "blog-aware" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "blog-aware is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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petermolnar that is in response to jekyll
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petermolnar what is Jekyll
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Loqi Jekyll is Ruby software that helps you create "Simple, blog-aware, static sites" suitable for static domain hosting https://indieweb.org/Jekyll
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[James_Gallaghe] The Jekyll site associates blog-aware with “Permalinks, categories, pages, posts, and custom layouts are all first-class citizens here.”
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someone1 hey
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someone1 is this on? :o
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Zegnat It is!
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someone1 ah! i was checking out indieweb and ended up in this chat. what powers this thing? i'm on the look out for web irc clients for a project
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Zegnat I think the web frontend for the IRC is a custom solution based on our IRC bot
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aaronpk yeah it's using the slack IRC gateway https://github.com/aaronpk/Slack-IRC-Gateway underneath
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Loqi [aaronpk] Slack-IRC-Gateway: Bridge Slack rooms to IRC channels
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someone1 but what's the web client itself?
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aaronpk https://github.com/indieweb/chat.indieweb.org
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someone1 thanks aaronpk!
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ScalaWilliam Scala_William
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ScalaWilliam Hello
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ndegruchy Hello
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ScalaWilliam I want to publish some articles with a future date, in order to build anticipation of when it will be published to the users; what sort of metadata should I consider?
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[snarfed] https://indieweb.org/scheduling
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ScalaWilliam thanks @[snarfed] I'm looking more from metadata and SEO perspective
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[snarfed] afaik the only metadata difference would be setting dt-published in the future
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[snarfed] and generally SEO is separate from indieweb, we don’t pay too much attention to it here
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ScalaWilliam makes sense @[snarfed], thank you!
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petermolnar seo for future posts? what a world we live in...
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ScalaWilliam ahah. In any case, for anyone's reference, this is what I did, just added these meta tags to the future content: <meta name="date.available" content="2020-10-15" /><meta name="date" content="2020-10-15" /><meta name="pubdate" content="2020-10-15" />
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[chrisbergr] But these are not meta data supported by the search engines, are they?
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ScalaWilliam @[chrisbergr] https://developers.google.com/custom-search/docs/structured_data#metatags
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ScalaWilliam Google mention it so I imagine it may be supported. Normally when you use Google you see publish dates for articles
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[chrisbergr] Yes sorry, I guess I did not made it clear: It would be interesting to know if those metadata force google (and others) to not display the article in the serp's until the given date.
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petermolnar if you want to please google, just stick to json-ld, but this topic is way out of indieweb main channel
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ScalaWilliam @petermolnar yes just came across that, but understand it's out of scope indeed
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petermolnar we have indieweb-dev
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petermolnar might fit in there
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[chrisaldrich] WordPress and Jetpack are apparently jumping in on the POSSE bandwagon: https://wptavern.com/jetpack-9-0-to-introduce-new-feature-for-publishing-wordpress-posts-to-twitter-as-threads
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[chrisaldrich] "In response to a comment requesting Automattic “concentrate on tools to get people off social media,” Pendergast said, “If we’re also able to improve the quality of conversations on social media, I think it’d be remiss of us to not do so.” He also credits IndieWeb discussions on Tweetstorms and POSSE (Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere) as inspirations for the feature."
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: But still no closure of sharing the URL back
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[chrisaldrich] I noticed that too... I'd seen another post a few weeks ago that they were working on this and had tried to nudge the feature in... maybe need to revisit it again?
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[chrisaldrich] But it's nice to have the community's work noticed and being built into products like this....
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[snarfed] jetpack’s had POSSE forever afaik. sounds like this is for threads specifically
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[tw2113] as i tweeted the other night since someone mentioned me about this, I’d MAAAAAYBE consider this if it wasn’t put in jetpack
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[tw2113] but i’m also on the side of a thread more than perhaps 3 tweets…is a blog post that deserves a permalink
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[tw2113] this sort of does that in reverse
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Want to use your natural charisma and skill at talking people into Indieweb features to try to poke them?
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[chrisaldrich] I'll ping them again and see if they can't continue "refining" it. It's a beta feature at the moment, so it's definitely not fully baked from their perspective.
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