#indieweb 2020-11-15
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[chrisaldrich] Thanks Stevewil[m]! Good to have you join us today. Hope to see you again tomorrow to see what we can hack together.
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sl007 [schmarty] About "ActivityPub" definition : It would help if not only mastodon is always mentioned, there are about 30 aeseome softwares for the 5 million users (e.g. peertube, funkwhale, writeFreely) , some in the official forum https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/c/software/14
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# [chrisaldrich] sl007, was there some sort of slight you felt that ActivityPub got today? It's definitely not forbidden here and the wiki will attest to many here who have implemented it, support it, and attempt to interoperate with it.
# [chrisaldrich] There are also wiki pages for things like write freely and I know we frequently see developers from projects like peertube relatively frequently.
# [chrisaldrich] I think Marty mentioned Mastodon simply as a shorthand since it is one of the more popularly known versions which implements AP which people are more likely to know. You're welcome to add to the wiki page, particularly if you're aware of people using some of those projects as all or portions of their personal website presences.
# [chrisaldrich] ActivityPub << WriteFreely
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Loqi ok, I added "[[WriteFreely]]" to the "See Also" section of /ActivityPub https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=73354&oldid=69497
# [chrisaldrich] ActivityPub << PixelFed
# Loqi ok, I added "[[PixelFed]]" to the "See Also" section of /ActivityPub https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=73355&oldid=73354
# [chrisaldrich] correction, it's the PixelFed developer I see in #indieweb-dev frequently...
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petermolnar re discovery session from yesterday about sharing following/subscriptions/etc: I have an archiver, names silo.pasta; in it's previous iteration it had a feature that when it imported data from a few silos - tumblr, deviantart, etc - it also added their RSS feeds to my miniflux instance: https://github.com/petermolnar/silo.pasta/blob/master/common.py#L69
# petermolnar there was an iteration when I was doing this using Aperture, but I can't seem to find it right now.
# petermolnar I don't know how this could be made into something bigger, than a personal use
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[jgmac1106] I might make more collections out of this template today....or just see if I can automate just one thing on my website
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[Sue_Hanen] I could use help with web mentions and indieauth.
# [Sue_Hanen] Thank you [Zegnat] I should have posted that on the indiecamp area.
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# carolline Hello! Just passing by to say I am not taking part today, got to prepare teaching stuff for this week. I will create my H-card and then findout how to publish it and link it to the indieweb site. I had a wonderful day yesterday, I have learned lots and enjoyed the company of you all. Hope you have a fab day :-)
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# [jgmac1106] good luck getting ready for the week, it looks like you use SemPress, I have a bunch of tutorials on https://tech-4-teens.club/sempress-tutorial/
# [chrisaldrich] For those who are interested in WordPress or have related questions: Here's the WordPress Zoom Room for create day: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/6312221690?pwd=UlNkck1FdGIzSEJGZ2h4dGFnUFhLZz09
# carolline Thanks Greg! I might use it, it is just that I am not familiar with the name Sempress, but I will look into it. There is so much to learn!!!
# carolline I can see a tutorial how to activate indieweb pluggins. This is I will look into :-)
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[dmitshur] Iām finishing breakfast and starting the create day soon. So exciting. š
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# [jgmac1106] Swwet hibs!!!
# [jgmac1106] made this: https://codepen.io/jgmac1106/pen/XWKOwbQ can't really tell you how it works
# [jgmac1106] carolline SemPress is the one compatible theme in the wordpress.org theme repository so if you are thinking of an IndieWeb learning space and doing it with students I recommend that one so they can autoupdate
# carolline it does work Greg! I you scroll on the fonts they move, they are trully variable fonts :-))
# [jgmac1106] thx for clmooc we are putting together a 2021 calendar around theme of hope. this was my submission for December trying to think Crepuscular Rays
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# carla-paloma cool
# carla-paloma cool
# [jgmac1106] carolline I keep a bunch of fun HTML/CSS poetry stuff here your students might enjoy playing with: https://glitch.com/@jgmac1106/poetry-stuff
# [Ian_Forrester] ā©ļø I might join in a bit
# [chrisaldrich] We're also discussing using the IndieWeb wiki and adding yourself to it in the WordPress room if anyone wants to join: WordPress Zoom
# [Raphael_Luckom] who else is actually in the us east timezone with me? š
# carolline Chris a what time are you starting?
# carolline Thanks Greg, will take a look at that :-)
# [Ian_Forrester] Last night I moved my gratitude diary from wordpress.com and moved it to my Raspberry PI with Yunohost. - https://gratitude.cubicgarden.info/blog/
# [Ian_Forrester] Like to have a play with kinds to make each diary entry a little different depending on my gratitude. Also like this to transfer into the RSS feed, so I can do something different here - https://cubicgarden.com/gratitude-diary/ (pulls from the RSS feed)
# [Raphael_Luckom] cool!
# [Ian_Forrester] Also tried to install WriteFreely instead of WP but didn't seem to install. Like to make writing the gratitude s a bit quicker, so looking at the email to WP thing
# [Raphael_Luckom] I spent a few days thinking about how to get that kind of quick-post functionality in the most lazy way possible. What I landed on for myself was a personal-ish slack workspace where I have a bot that can post things for me.
# [Ian_Forrester] Yeah been thinking similar, originally I was thinking of a matrix/mastodon bot so I can post quick and easy from any device anywhere
# [Raphael_Luckom] right, exactly. For me the requirement was basically that there had to be an existing ios client that I could use without writing myself. I'm honestly not that happy with slack for my use case, but it's better than anything else I've tried
# [Ian_Forrester] I always write my gratitude diary late at night and when I was around my partners flat, didn't want to get the chromebook out to post for a short while. WP is quicker but feels heavy for something so small and quick
# [Raphael_Luckom] The important things that I identified were: 1) reasonably secure--only I can post 2) can post from any device 3) I don't need an always-on server
# [Raphael_Luckom] The reason that slack meets all three is that it has an events API where it will _send_ a notification anywhere you tell it for certain types of events. Discord has nicer UX for my money, but there's no way to get them to send events to you.
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[KevinMarks] If you have micropub you could use a small Web client to post
# [Ian_Forrester] Has someone already written a micropub client for this [KevinMarks]? Its the kind of thing I thought about
# [Ian_Forrester] Like to modify a micropub client and make it just for gratitutes
# [Ian_Forrester] Remember not a developer but can hack around
# [Raphael_Luckom] [Zegnat] I can make an API on AWS that's backed by a web function--AWS provides the endpoint and only wakes up my function to handle events as requests come in. The pricing for the API is based on # of requests (or total GB/month, I forget) and the pricing for the function is based on invocations, memory usage, and the duration it takes. My AWS bill for a typical month is $1.40
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Zegnat [Ian_Forrester]: bunch of micropub clients linked from https://indieweb.org/Micropub/Clients ... not sure exactly what requirements you have for your gratitude posting interfacec
# Zegnat If you want to see what a client looks like, but do not want to setup Micropub yourself first, you can try logging in to most public clients with https://sink.zegnat.net/
# [Ian_Forrester] Thanks... pretty much a microblogging interface
# [Raphael_Luckom] yeah, exactly. For me, there's a qualitative difference between "there is something whose _steady state_ I'm responsible for," vs "there are these discrete blocks of code that I need to make sure can execute correctly"
# [Ian_Forrester] I enabled micropub on wp already š
# Zegnat I like https://micropublish.net/ for its minimal design (works well on mobile too)
# [Ian_Forrester] i enabled indieauth but not set it up yet
# [Ian_Forrester] thx!
# [KevinMarks] If you want a web based one that's configurable https://inklings.io/inkstone/ is
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# [Raphael_Luckom] One thing that's interesting about the "beginner indieweb" journey is that I've seen a few people come through asking "how do I set up <indieweb block x>" or "Can someone help with <y issue>" but by the time they have those questions, they have already decided to use block x or the thing that precipitates y issue. I'd be really interested in knowing more about the use case that brought them there whenever that happens.
# [Ian_Forrester] So for my understanding, Micropub is like a modern replacement for the old XML-RPC thing?
# [Ian_Forrester] Thats what I was after sorry yes MetaweblogAPI
# [Ian_Forrester] Ah good stuff still confused about MicroSub, although I think of ActivityPub as RSS but in Json form
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# [chrisaldrich] Good to see you [tonz]
# Zegnat [Ian_Forrester]: In my view: like how MicroPub tries to standardise the way a writing client talks to a server, MicroSub tries to standardise the way a reading client talks to a server. E.g. trying to standardise the API that a reader client like Reeder would use to synchronise with a server like Feedbin.
# [Ian_Forrester] Hence Ingeious
# [Ian_Forrester] *Ingenious*
# [Ian_Forrester] Damm it...
# [Ian_Forrester] ingenious
# [Ian_Forrester] yep
# [Ian_Forrester] As I can only just speak english ... š
# [Raphael_Luckom] Yeah, if these standards mean that I'll be able to get a generic client for my phone that I can point at my site, that would be awesome. I would absolutely use that
# Loqi Indigenous is a set of native apps for iOS, Android currently in beta that supports posting your website using Micropub and a built-in reader that supports Microsub https://indieweb.org/Indigenous
# [Raphael_Luckom] cool!
# [Ian_Forrester] Thats what we were after š
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# Zegnat Turns out I am doing mostly CSS today. The button red vs green really needs some more work. Anyone know some cool examples? https://i.imgur.com/OmAdhzD.png
# [dmitshur] [hibs] I'm a bit late but what is there a zoom link for the variable fonts room?
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[hibs] [dmitshur] yep we're in a breakout room in the red room, I think this is the right link: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82666145313?pwd=ZG1yYTJsRHVzMkNWNDFHV0JNUXcxZz09
# [dmitshur] Thanks!
# [Raphael_Luckom] [Zegnat] that looks really cool! are you just looking for improvements for the look of the buttons? I'd probably just darken the colors a little, add left/right margins between them and the center input, and round the other corners.
# [Raphael_Luckom] The "nice buttons" I've found are all in various bootstrap-y packages, but I'm allergic to those
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# [Ian_Forrester] https://gratitude.cubicgarden.info/blog/2020/11/15/307/ - via webauth & micropub
# Loqi [gratitude] Testing testing
https://gratitude.cubicgarden.info/blog/2020/11/15/307/
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# [Ian_Forrester] Loqi is so strange š
# [Ian_Forrester] Yep messing with the author now
# [Raphael_Luckom] tbh it looks fine as-is. I think that making the outer perimeter lines of the buttons function as both the group-boundary and button outline is maybe what's giving you trouble. But usability-wise it's great.
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# maxwelljoslyn Good morning indieweb :)
# [KevinMarks] shoelace 1.0 had some nice button cluster looks https://v1.shoelace.style/docs/forms.html#input-groups
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# [KevinMarks] this would be its version https://codepen.io/kevinmarks/pen/RwRdbjg
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# [chrisaldrich] carolline We're here all day if you want to join us. I'm taking a short break, but the wordpress room is at https://us02web.zoom.us/j/6312221690?pwd=UlNkck1FdGIzSEJGZ2h4dGFnUFhLZz09
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# oenone Do I understand correctly that "syndication" can for example be simply posting the summary of a blog posting with a link on other platforms?
# [chrisaldrich] For example syndicating a 1,500 word article to twitter usually comes down to cross-posting the title of the article and a link to it.
# oenone So, generally speaking, as much of the content as possible
# [chrisaldrich] [jeremyfelt]++ for https://jeremyfelt.com/2020/11/15/notes-on-indie-web-camp-east-online-2020-day-1/ (I can't believe we actually did half of what he writes about here, much less that he's managed to write this much about it all so quickly...)
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# [jeremyfelt] It was a lot!
# [Raphael_Luckom] I'm sure people have differing opinions on this, but where does everyone land on the balance between "wanting to get work seen by people who are within silos" and "not wanting to help silos hold people's attention"?
# [Raphael_Luckom] Yeah, I asked because I feel differently depending on the day and the platform and how grumpy I am
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KartikPrabhu yo! sorry I didn't join in yesterday. But I am working on moving my site to a new hosting today
# KartikPrabhu yes
# KartikPrabhu I'm hoping to get at least a "clone" of my site up and running
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# KartikPrabhu oenone: the things that GWG and [chrisaldrich] suggested regarding syndication are more like "common practices", not "strict rules". you should feel free to syndicate in any manner you wish
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# [snarfed] [Simon_Willison] datasette and dogsheep look awesome! they seem similar to https://granary.io/ , the indieweb project for reading and converting from any data source and format to any other
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# [KevinMarks] what is flash?
# Loqi Flash is in the context of the web a reference to Adobe Flash, typically Adobe Flash Player, which is a waning proprietary platform and browser plug-in for content and application distribution, ages ago on independent sites, more recently on embedded systems like gas station kiosks like https://twitter.com/moenig/status/1030490221392142338 (see screenshots therein) https://indieweb.org/Flash
# [KevinMarks] Flash << Flash as independent development enabler http://www.nathalielawhead.com/candybox/a-short-history-of-flash-the-forgotten-flash-website-movement-when-websites-were-the-new-emerging-artform
# Loqi ok, I added "Flash as independent development enabler http://www.nathalielawhead.com/candybox/a-short-history-of-flash-the-forgotten-flash-website-movement-when-websites-were-the-new-emerging-artform" to a brand new "See Also" section of /Flash https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=73372&oldid=51223
# oenone Correct answer would've been "dead"
# Zegnat Flash << [https://ruffle.rs/ Ruffle] an open source Flash Player emulator in [[Rust]]
# Loqi ok, I added "[https://ruffle.rs/ Ruffle] an open source Flash Player emulator in [[Rust]]" to the "See Also" section of /Flash https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=73373&oldid=73372
# [KevinMarks] I used flash for graph plotting before we had SVG
# oenone There's also "flash messages" in context of UI design
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# alex11 is there *any* way to syndicate with facebook? checked the indieweb wiki and there's really not many options other than some very long 'developer' page
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# [Simon_Willison] So I have a naming challenge Iād like to bounce off people. Iāve been getting increasingly excited about a design pattern thatās somewhere between static side frameworks and dynamic rendered pages from a database
# [Simon_Willison] The key idea is that you ābakeā your infrequently-changing data into a SQLite database file, then publish that along with your code. Then you have dynamic pages and templates which query that database.
# [Simon_Willison] What makes this interesting is that itās trivial to scale (just run more copies of the app, each with a copy of the database) and you donāt have to build 1000s of static pages. It can be REALLY cheap to host, thanks to serverless hosting providers like Vercel and Google Cloud Run. And just like static sites, itās hard to break - the database file is treated as read-only, so you donāt need to worry about many of the complexities that
# [Simon_Willison] with running a dynamic site
# [Simon_Willison] I want to come up with a name for this pattern, because if you name things itās much easier to talk about them (see JAMstack, static site generators, etc)
# [Simon_Willison] ā©ļø Starting a thread here to avoid flooding the channel
# [Simon_Willison] ā©ļø My top candidate for a name right now is the ācast ironā pattern - based on the old-school comparison between ābakingā your pages (today called static site generation) and āfryingā your pages (where you construct every page dynamically from a database using something like PHP or Django)
# [Simon_Willison] ā©ļø Cast iron pans can be used to both bake and fry!
# [Simon_Willison] erk, thatās no good! OK, Iāll abandon the thread then
# [Simon_Willison] ā©ļø <thread abandoned, see https://indiewebcamp.slack.com/archives/C03QR2B4R/p1605471209439300 >
# [Simon_Willison] > My top candidate for a name right now is the ācast ironā pattern - based on the old-school comparison between ābakingā your pages (today called static site generation) and āfryingā your pages (where you construct every page dynamically from a database using something like PHP or Django)
# Zegnat Much appreciated! See also https://chat.indieweb.org/2020-11-15#bottom for how the rest of the world sees chat
# [Simon_Willison] So question: would ācast ironā work for people for this? Does anyone have a better idea for what I can call it?
# [Simon_Willison] The largest scale example of this pattern Iām aware of is Mozila.org, which has been doing this (without using a fancy name for it) for a couple of years now: https://mozilla.github.io/meao/2018/03/28/bedrock-the-sqlitening/
# [Simon_Willison] Every time I see someone complain that their static site framework is taking too long to generate thousands of pages I want to ask them āhave you considered the cast iron pattern instead?ā
# [Simon_Willison] Iām using it for https://www.niche-museums.com/ and https://til.simonwillison.net/ and Natalieās https://www.rockybeaches.com/ sites
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# [jgmac1106] Flood away but maybe in the dev channel to leave the main room I inviting with those with less technical background
# [jgmac1106] I really am intrigued though by your ideas and small saved datas.
# [Simon_Willison] OK, moving this to the dev channelā¦
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# [jgmac1106] That is kinds where I am... Choose a CMS.... Learn a bit of storage... So will follow
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# alex11 "API Access - New posts can be created through the API using the Publishing API"
# alex11 it says "your app" apparently
# alex11 soooooooooooooooooooooo
# petermolnar eons ago there was a mouse movement and clicks "recorder" thing to automate tasks that were basically impossible - no api, no SOAP, no nothing. I keep wondering if there's a new usecase for those in lights of the no-api silos.
# [snarfed] a bit more background, 2y old: https://snarfed.org/2018-06-07_turning-off-facebook-for-bridgy
# alex11 they're such a scumbag company
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# alex11 don't forget about making the world more connected
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# petermolnar demos in 50 minutes?
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# [dmitshur] That's my understanding too, @petermolnar.
# [Simon_Willison] How do we sign up to give demos?
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# [Emma_Humphries] FB is allowing "instant articles," but only for vetted (and I presume paying) publishers: https://developers.facebook.com/docs/instant-articles/publishing/setup-rss-feed/
# [Emma_Humphries] [Simon_Willison] maybe "air frying"?
# alex11 i hate cambridge analytica because now they can perennially claim "well we won't allow data export/transfer because something something security hole"
# alex11 and the general public won't be able to separate the truth from the lies and determine the granularity of things and certain claims
# alex11 i would believe fb if it wasn't for all the other crap they pull
# [Emma_Humphries] I'm wondering how to do that in a way that discourages people from using heavy frameworks, and would run on crappy smartphones
# [chrisaldrich] We can use the etherpad for Projects to order ourselves into a list for demos if people like: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-East-Projects
# [Emma_Humphries] @alex11 I'm sure this is "reaching our audience is a privilege you gotta pay for"
# alex11 yeah emma i just meant in general
# alex11 not that they're claiming that for this specific thing
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# KartikPrabhu <phew> just finished re-setting my site locally, now on to the Cloudā¢
# Ryuno-Ki http://railscasts.com/
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# KartikPrabhu aah I might not make it, but might write a follow up post or something
# [chrisaldrich] KartikPrabhu++ for encouraging writing up demo posts on our personal websites š
# [chrisaldrich] Here's the Zoom link for Demo time: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82666145313?pwd=ZG1yYTJsRHVzMkNWNDFHV0JNUXcxZz09
# [chrisaldrich] Sign up for demo order here: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2020-East-Projects
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# [KevinMarks] could you use selenium to do it?
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# [KevinMarks] [jackjamieson] what was the URL?
# petermolnar http://dissertation.jackjamieson.net/#x1-710005.1.1 - this is quite interesting
# petermolnar (no, I haven't read it that far yet)
# [KevinMarks] a layout that might be worth a look for that is the Tufte one https://edwardtufte.github.io/tufte-css/
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# [timothy_chambe] FYI, our instance on the Mastodon platform dedicated to Indieweb, and related tech is up to 364 users with accounts on that instnace, and many more follwoing and engaging with content from it... anyone wanting to be on the #Fediverse or interested in how Indieweb and Fedi realted technology mesh are welcome to join: https://indieweb.social/about/more
# KartikPrabhu my dummy site is up! http://kartikprabhu.pythonanywhere.com/
# [jgmac1106] [timothy_chambe] ahh wish you were around this weekend. Sebastian wanted to do an Activity Pub session. The crowd had more general interests in getting their passions online and don't get into the plumbing.
# KartikPrabhu now to domain mapping and security cert stuff
# [jgmac1106] Pretty sure 80%-90% didn't understand the difference or no what ActivityPub and FediVerse meant....maybe you two organize a pop up session
# [jgmac1106] KartikPrabhu++
# [jgmac1106] And Hibs don't let him hide deep in some gravity well. Kartik a CSS genius
# [KevinMarks] want to demo Karthik?
# KartikPrabhu my demo would just be a dummy site!
# KartikPrabhu but sure
# [jgmac1106] And Kartik if you celebrate Diwali Happy festival of lights
# KartikPrabhu oh no! I'm too late
# [chrisaldrich] Thanks again everyone!
# KartikPrabhu a follow-up post it is
# [chrisaldrich] (Sorry Kartik, I think I saw you pop up as we were closing the room...)
# KartikPrabhu no worries, I shouldn't have slept in! :P
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[schmarty] chrisaldrich++ gwg++ !!!
# KartikPrabhu [jgmac1106]: thanks!
# [schmarty] oops i forgot that punctuation stops karma gwg++
# [dmitshur] Thank you everyone for a great IndieWebCamp East 2020!
# petermolnar no, not here
# petermolnar #indieweb-chat
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[tantek] I'm signed into the Zoom listed on https://indieweb.org/2020/East/Schedule#Sunday and it says "Waiting for the host to start this meeting"
# KartikPrabhu I think the meeting is closed
# petermolnar it's all gone [tantek]
# petermolnar !meme timezones
# KartikPrabhu at least I was earlier than [tantek] ;)
# [dmitshur] It wrapped up a early. :(
# petermolnar there weren't enough demos
# KartikPrabhu [tantek]: do you have a demo?
# KartikPrabhu me neither, but made progress towards moving my hosting
# [KevinMarks] I have a friend with a PhD in why dating is bad
# KartikPrabhu lol!
# [tantek] The second insight was that rather than trying to critique, fix, improve, or write a new dating site, accept that people will use *any and all forms of online social interaction* as a form of dating, and consider building tools to manage their existing online interactions instead of trying to create yet another silo with a weird artificial context that encourages people to put on yet another inauthentic profile.
# [KevinMarks] this is the weirdest variable font yet: https://v-fonts.com/fonts/coronafaceimpact
# [KevinMarks] and this one is very playful https://v-fonts.com/fonts/gimme-constructo-variable
# alex11 ugh this whole POSSE to facebook article is just making me more and more angry
# alex11 they're never, ever on the consumer's side
# alex11 ever
# alex11 break them up, regulate the hell out of them
# alex11 i'm just going to stop going on it for a while, they don't deserve my traffic
# [KevinMarks] [tantek] that dating idea reminds me of this https://www.jwz.org/doc/groupware.html
# [tantek] allow me to introduce you to /silo-quits for inspiration š
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# alex11 which event?
# KartikPrabhu hey! If any one has done migrations of their sites add to https://indieweb.org/migration
# [tantek] specifically: https://indieweb.org/migration#IndieWeb_Examples
# alex11 i see the event is over now; did you guys get a lot of participants?
# Loqi Nitter is a free and open source alternative Twitter front-end focused on privacy https://indieweb.org/Nitter