#indieweb 2020-12-16

2020-12-16 UTC
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jacky
[eddie]++
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Loqi
[eddie] has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (11 in all channels)
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[eddie]
Thanks. 🙂 The human element is always the most important element of life. Which is I think why most of us join this community over just using social media. Reincorporating the humanity of the Internet.
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[chrisaldrich]
Maybe we could change our tag line? This one seems more apropos to who we actually are? https://twitter.com/RMac18/status/1338898287957426177
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@RMac18
Facebook is having an end-of-year, company-wide meeting right now. One of its executives tried to rally employees by telling them: "We're at the center of what it means to be human."
(twitter.com/_/status/1338898287957426177)
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aaronpk
that thread is terrifying
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GWG
I did some content on my site this week. If I get stalled at building, maybe I could catch up on that.
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alex11
i'll settle for "don't buy all your competition and maybe have a less algorithmic feed"
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alex11
like you don't think it strikes a negative chord with people when you say "yeah so we used onavo to spy on people and bought whatsapp because people were using it so now they're forced to use it and also we said oculus wouldn't need an account and reneged on that"
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alex11
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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alex11
like what fb did or not would matter a lot less of zuckerberg didn't want to literally own the world
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[KevinMarks]
another candidate for social readr outreach? https://fraidyc.at/
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[schmarty]
that's by kickscondor! i don't know that i've seen them in chat but they also run indieweb.xyz and are well aware of the community. :}
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[KevinMarks]
Ah, it mentions json feed but not h-feed
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[chrisaldrich]
kickscondor++
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Loqi
kickscondor has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (2 in all channels)
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[chrisaldrich]
I think there's a github repo for fraidycat, and Kicks is generally responsive to ideas for improvement
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[tantek]
What is Fraidycat?
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Loqi
Fraidycat or Fraidyc.at is a browser extension for Firefox or Chrome that lets you follow people, see a summary of who has recently posted instead of a news feed, and expand the summaries to see recent titles/excerpts https://indieweb.org/fraidycat
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[tantek]
is that an old dfn? the above sounds more than just a browser extension
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[tantek]
[KevinMarks] was "readr" a typo or a classic mid-2000s naming style suggestion for a renaming of Indigenous? as in "Readr"
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[KevinMarks]
I'm not sure if that method works any more as everything auto corrects now
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gRegorLove
Still correct, afaik. It runs all that in the browser extension
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[tantek]
:thumbsup_all:
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[Ana_Rodrigues]
Copying from #indieweb-meta
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[Ana_Rodrigues]
> I feel as if there is a “formality” (even if small) when posting and I feel like I want permission to publish unfinished thoughts/work and being okay with going back to edit them. I thought my new “defined” states would help because certain metadata (like a date) feels like it “seals the deal”.
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[Ana_Rodrigues]
For context: I’ve been working on my personal blog and I’m planning on separating it into different sections. One that renders all my posts along with new ones such as: “pixels” (which I would use for photos or digital art), “analog journal” for photos of my actual notebooks, “cursed thoughts” for notes that could have been tweets and finally “drafts”.
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[tantek]
what is a draft
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Loqi
A draft in the context of the indieweb refers to a draft post, a post that an author has partially written, or otherwise does not consider finished https://indieweb.org/draft
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[Ana_Rodrigues]
And, in my head, these “drafts” would be public by default.
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[tantek]
I'd like both, or rather, public, friends-only, and private!
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[snarfed]
[Ana_Rodrigues] lots of us have felt the same thing! https://snarfed.org/2012-08-11_unwriting , https://snarfed.org/?s=unwriting
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gRegorLove
[Ana_Rodrigues], "cursed thoughts" cracked me up. Love that.
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[tantek]
so good. "untweetables" or "unpostables" comes to mind
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chrisaldrich
pardon the language, but I've actually seen people have sections on their websites labeled as "sh*tposts" which is another variant of that pattern for notes.
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petermolnar
drafts, for me, are offline, not even private. They are not ready for prime time. But I do get the urge to do unfinished (unpolished?) pieces.
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petermolnar
but then this suddenly becomes a philosophical question: should only "perfect" pieces be shared?
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petermolnar
The answer is obviously no.
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[KevinMarks]
right, but then editing your drafts gets tricky - I had a bit of that with this one: http://www.kevinmarks.com/htmlversustex.html as I went back and forth with the author of the post I was linking to
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Loqi
HTML as TeX replacement 2015-11-06
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