#indieweb 2020-12-17

2020-12-17 UTC
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[eddie] I know that on average 12-25 people are using Indigenous for iOS. Is anyone here part of that 12-25? I’m wondering what your primary use case is: the share extension? Or the social reader aspect?
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aaronpk is one, primarily the share extension, it's the main way i reply to tweets on my phone
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[eddie] 👍 excellent, that’s helpful. Thanks
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[eddie] That also makes complete sense as that’s literally why I built the share extension back before we were even working on Microsub
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[eddie] So I could reply to tweets 🤣
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aaronpk actually it's the *only* way I reply to tweets on my phone come to think of it
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vilhalmer I have it installed with the intent to use the reader but then haven't had time to finish implementing everything necessary on my site
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[eddie] Gotcha. That makes sense!
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[schmarty] hi! i use it a helluva lot! mostly for the reader aspect (and occasional replies) but also for the share extensions. i have lots of ideas for things i would change about both 😂
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[schmarty] i have long yearned for the ability to share photos/videos through it but ended up doing that and a few other things through Shortcuts
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[eddie] 🤣 great to know. I would be interested in ideas on what you would change about both. I also have a list of things I would change so it would be interesting to see what matches up and what doesn’t
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[Kevin_Faaborg] it was great reconnecting with everyone at the Homebrew meeting tonight
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[Kevin_Faaborg] i'll totally do a session on distributed web tech in January
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[Kevin_Faaborg] if you want to try out my decentralized blogger (please do, and let me know what you think!), first get beaker:
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[Kevin_Faaborg] https://beakerbrowser.com/
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[Kevin_Faaborg] and then navigate it to my blog:
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[Kevin_Faaborg] and also check out [KevinMarks]’s blog:
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[Kevin_Faaborg] click 'Follow' beside either of our names to copy the software locally and start blogging on the decentralized web yourselves, too!
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[jgmac1106] [Ana_Rodrigues] been kinda doing the same thing but hitting publish first but considering a draft something I do not broadcast yet...
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[jgmac1106] I could see a world where I publish drafts not an h-feed but move them to a feed after a bit...hmm got me thinking
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[KevinMarks] I do that in my manual until it hurts way - as I have to edit index.html by hand to add to the feed, so I can just serve drafts
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[Murray] wise words from Simon Collison 🙂 https://colly.com/articles/this-used-to-be-our-playground
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[Murray] also spawning a potentially indieweb-relevant side project (no ETA, just blank page for now): http://letsgetpersonal.website/
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[Ana_Rodrigues] [snarfed] yes! I completely relate to what you said here:
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[Ana_Rodrigues] [jgmac1106] that’s what I was thinking - publishing drafts but not adding them a feed. Someone would have to visit the website and deliberately visit them.
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[Ana_Rodrigues] > Some issues are well established and widely discussed, and I’m not sure I can add anything meaningful or new.
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[Ana_Rodrigues] My drafts have lots of thoughts that I overthink - then overthink if I didn’t squeeze more out of it. While editing posts that made it out there isn’t unusual - it feels as if “oh I should have considered this point of view before I published this”. Other times, I simply don’t have time to expand on a though but I still would like it to put it out there.
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[jgmac1106] ...I do that by laziness and not knowing how to automate stuff. I have to manually make an entry in the h-feed...65% of the time...I never get there
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[jgmac1106] but I am thinking about this a lot Ana as I have been writing outside my domain of expertise and like to member check stuff with SMEs
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[chrisaldrich] [Ana_Rodrigues] perhaps a better way to frame it isn't whether or not you can add something new, but to do the thinking/writing for yourself (and if you publish it maybe your friends/family/personal learning group). Don't be afraid to wear your learning on your sleeve.
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[chrisaldrich] If it helps some, I've been collecting/tagging posts and ideas about using websites (or blogs) as thought spaces https://boffosocko.com/tag/thought-spaces/ as part of my digital gardens research. There are many out there using their websites to do this whether they're thinking about it consciously or not.
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[chrisaldrich] I'll get around to documenting some of it with some select quotes on the /commonplace_book (digital garden) page sooner or later...
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[tw2113_Slack_] i can’t recall, do we have any working backfeed methods from facebook to personal site?
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[snarfed] afaik no
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[snarfed] i’m looking into getting that working again with a browser extension + bridgy though
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[snarfed] instagram first, and if that works, maybe FB
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[tw2113_Slack_] noted
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sebbu doesn't instagram not work anymore on bridgy ?
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sebbu and that appspot link just give me an error
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[snarfed] sadly no, Bridgy Instagram is currently dead. https://brid.gy/about#instagram-paused
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[snarfed] which appspot link?
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[chrisaldrich] [tw2113_Slack_] some of us have floated an idea about taking incoming Facebook email notifications and turning them into backfeed, but no one has implemented it.
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[snarfed] [chrisaldrich] i did! it failed
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[snarfed] finding details
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[chrisaldrich] I think there's a stub on the brid.gy repo about how this might work and some thoughts....
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[snarfed] https://brid.gy/about#rip-facebook
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[tw2113_Slack_] i have a coworker who had a friend asking about this, so i figured i’d reach out here 😄
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[snarfed] summary of the FB email notifs implementation there in the bridgy docs, gory details in the github issue
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[chrisaldrich] or if it isn't scrapable, it could be done manually at least.... 😞
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[snarfed] the problem was that we could never get the FB email notifs to be consistent/reliable. multiple people tried
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[snarfed] many just never arrived
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[chrisaldrich] I'm thinking that I'll be doing a last download of my Facebook data over the holidays and mothballing my presence there completely
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[snarfed] chrisaldrich++
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Loqi chrisaldrich has 29 karma in this channel over the last year (88 in all channels)
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sebbu [snarfed], https://instagram-atom.appspot.com/ that comes from https://granary.io/?site=instagram
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[snarfed] they reuse a lot of code but they’re independent services
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[snarfed] one key difference is that you have to give instagram-atom your IG session cookie. bridgy doesn’t ask for or use that.
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[snarfed] that’s why ig-atom is still mostly working and bridgy isn’t
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sebbu yes, but when i gave it my instagram sessionid cookie it didn't worked
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sebbu (i haven't tried logging out and in again)
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sebbu (to change my sessionid)
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[snarfed] ig-atom? hmm! sorry about that
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[snarfed] mine is working, fwiw
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[Rose] Wait, I missed an OYG browser extension?
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aaronpk shh it's still a secret
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[Rose] 👀
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[Rose] Does that mean that if I post 📷 🐱 🤐 I can get a secret link somehow?
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aaronpk (actually it just exists on my laptop as a prototype)
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[Rose] Ahhh
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[Rose] Well, let me know when you need another tester. I'd like to post on Instagram again
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aaronpk haha same
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aaronpk turns out i am really not motivated to post on silos unless i can get the posts on my website too
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[tantek] I've felt pretty unmotivated to post on silos too. The IG manual POSSE aspect has been a drag for a while and I've been reconsidering why and what to bother posting there. I have some ideas, nothing concrete. Considering only a subset of posts in the future, or perhaps summary posts of a sort.
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petermolnar I simply feel unmotivated to post, though the reason depends on the platform. IG... I've simply refused to copy my files to my phone and post from there. My own site... not many things had been happening that's worth a blog post.
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[tw2113_Slack_] just create some quick lists of random things
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[tw2113_Slack_] “top 5 things i ate today”
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petermolnar what for?
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petermolnar that's not really content I'd cherish, to be honest.
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[tw2113_Slack_] i dunno, cheap content
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[tw2113_Slack_] 😄
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