#indieweb 2020-12-30

2020-12-30 UTC
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drhitchcock[m] Any techperts on integrating an 11ty website and webmentions? ✌️
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Seirdy drhitchcock[m]: what im planning on doing is getting email notifications for webmentions and forwarding those emails to my website + gemini capsule's mailing list. alternatively, you could render them client-side with JS. I'm not a fan of the client-side JS approach. The last option is to pull webmentions when building your static site and include the webmentions in your static html files, and
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Seirdy re-build relevant pages when new webmentions come in. The last approach is probably best, but idk if anybody's implemented it yet. I might do this someday.
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Seirdy (i have 0 experience with 11ty; my website is generated with hugo).
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[chrisaldrich] What is eleventy?
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Loqi Eleventy is a JavaScript based static site generator that allows the user to select their own preferred template engine and theme, which in practice can and does enable use of microformats2 https://indieweb.org/Eleventy
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[chrisaldrich] drhitchcock[m] that page ^ has some good articles and links. Esp the ones by Max and Sia.
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[chrisaldrich] Questions on technical specifics are best asked in the #indieweb-dev channel.
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drhitchcock[m] <[chrisaldrich] "drhitchcock that page ^ has some"> Thanks Chris. I've tried Sia's article in the past. I've just started to give it another go now.
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drhitchcock[m] <[chrisaldrich] "Questions on technical specific"> Sorry about that I only just realised after I posted here.
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[chrisaldrich] Sia recently uploaded the video for that post in the past two weeks. Hopefully it's helpful.
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[chrisaldrich] You might also find some interesting/useful documentation on the /SSG page or some other similar platforms
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sebsel so I came across this tweet: https://twitter.com/fdebijl/status/1343917866484178947
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@fdebijl Nog een keer deze bumpen want het is echt héél achterbaks wat dit bedrijf doet. Je kan de permissions hier weghalen 👉 https://twitter.com/settings/connected_apps https://twitter.com/fdebijl/status/1343581833867485195 (twitter.com/_/status/1343917866484178947)
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sebsel it warns for an app that generates overviews of ‘who is your family on twitter’ and stuff
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sebsel and then uses the permissions the twitter users gave them via the API, to follow all kinds of companies, for money (see the quoted tweet)
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sebsel I feel like that keeps to be a hard thing: users just give away permissions like these for shiny features like overviews of their friends.
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sebsel (but a good thing that people that are warned, can revoke access)
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TeeKayZA[m] I published some scripts I wrote to automatically post to my static-generated site using micropub:
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TeeKayZA[m] IndieWeb scripts for publishing using micropub to a static-site generator like Pelican.
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TeeKayZA[m] https://github.com/tobykurien/micropub-to-markdown
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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GWG Good morning, jeremycherfas
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jeremycherfas Hello GWG. Any progress on your reviews? I have to say, I gave up mf2 on reviews, as on recipes, because it just messed up my writing flow to no great purpose.
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GWG jeremycherfas: It's still in the early brainstorming phase as I finish better support for imperial units for weather.
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GWG I want to add a imperial to metric toggle for those who had issues with Fahrenheit
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jeremycherfas Very thoughtful.
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[Ana_Rodrigues] Good morning!
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BinyaminGreen[m] drhitchcock: Have you seen Max Boeck's article on the subject? That helped me for my site, which is also built in 11ty.
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drhitchcock[m] <BinyaminGreen[m] "drhitchcock: Have you seen Max B"> I did but I had issues getting it going. I've started again with Sia's tutorial so I'll see how I go. What's the link to your site? I'd love to check it out.
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astralbijection Should URL dates be zero-padded? (i.e. /2020/5/4/7/slug vs /2020/05/04/07/slug)
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shoesNsocks Mine are, not sure about "should."
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ciccarellome[m] Same, mine are zero-padded too.
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astralbijection Mine are currently (as /blog/2020-05-04-slug without ordinal), but I'm currently doing a bit of a rewrite of my site and changing the urls
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astralbijection I suppose it doesn't really matter in the end if I have redirects set up to convert between them
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astralbijection The big brain move would be to not zero-pad them and write months in base 12 and days in base 31
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Zegnat !march
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Kaja It's March 305, 2020 (UTC)
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Zegnat Bonus point for supporting those dates
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sebsel astralbijection: see also http://tantek.pbworks.com/w/page/21743973/Whistle for URLs in different base-things.
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astralbijection Yeah I was looking at that
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sebsel (tantek's wiki is a dangerous place, before you know it it's 2021)
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astralbijection Or, something else on that wiki actually
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sebsel I implemented whistle for my URL-shortner, just like on that page, but without the post-type (because I don't use it)
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astralbijection I did get myself a URL shortener domain, and I'll probably implement a base60 permashortlinker in rust as a learning exercise
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[chrisaldrich] commonplace book << https://anagora.org/, an open source community-based digital garden project
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Loqi ok, I added "https://anagora.org/, an open source community-based digital garden project" to the "See Also" section of /commonplace_book https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74122&oldid=74116
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Zegnat Have you used anagora, [chrisaldrich]? I am having a hard time wrapping my head around what it is doing / what makes it different
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[chrisaldrich] I'm looking at it Zegnat. It looks like there's a hosted version for multiple people's accounts, though I'm not sure how to sign up. I've also found a couple of github repos that look like they're for creating a server to run it.
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[chrisaldrich] The project looks like it started in early November and is similar in broad functionality to Roam Research or Obsidian.
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[chrisaldrich] Here's the server code link: https://github.com/flancian/agora-server
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Loqi [flancian] agora-server: Agora Server implementation for the Agora (flancia.org/go/agora).
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[chrisaldrich] What I find most interesting is that it's another new wiki-like project that is doing internal backlinks and displaying them in their UI sort of like what we might consider displayed internal webmentions.
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[chrisaldrich] I'm waiting for some of these projects to do site to site webmentions sooner or later, and the developer of this project is at least somewhat aware of them: https://twitter.com/houshuang/status/1343680383930527749
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@houshuang @flancian I'd be happy to discuss cognitive stuff any day. Also very interested in the idea of linking digital gardens - have been discussing some prototype with @JoelChan86 using webmentions, and actually tried building something 7 yrs ago based on PhD students reading identical papers. (twitter.com/_/status/1343680383930527749)
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Zegnat [chrisaldrich]: that is what I was thinking this might have been doing, but then I could not find any example of it on the main site. That is, I was expecting pages to include content from multiple domains, but it only seems to agregate content from the same domain at the moment
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Zegnat Still definitely an interesting way to do community gardening.
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[chrisaldrich] the community gardening part was also intriguing to me as well, so structurally I might call this a potential Mastodon for digital gardeners, but I'm not sure the federated part is working yet.
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BinyaminGreen[m] drhitchcock: binyam.in is the actual site, and the code is on GitHub at https://github.com/binyamin/binyam.in
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Loqi [binyamin] binyam.in: :house: My personal website
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