#indieweb 2021-01-02

2021-01-02 UTC
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[KevinMarks] Google local has a 5 point scale, but I tend to just hand out 5's and ignore the places I don't like.
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[jeremycherfas] A five point scale, like any odd-numbered scale, has the disadvantage that it converges on the mid-point, if you are averaging over several ratings, which is less interesting for a detailed analysis.
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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pikselaxam Good morning
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Loqi guten morgen
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Zegnat Oh, interesting observation on odd-numbered scales, jeremycherfas
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Zegnat I do always refer to Netflix having gone to a binary scale, because they found more granularity did not actually work for analytics over big groups
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Zegnat (Though I am also partial to the scale used by the Hello Internet podcast: angle degree of the thumbs up :P )
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jeremycherfas I was very bemused when exist.io moved recently from a 5-point scale to a 10--point scale because I find it hard enough to tell the difference between a 4 and a 5, let alone between an 8 and a 9.
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[tw2113_Slack_] New challenge for me to set up. Recreate Goodreads reading challenge functionality on my own site
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GWG Okay. In a few moments, my website will allow for a query string to change the temperature display to celsius.
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[chrisaldrich] I suspect that the quantization differences between 3, 5, 10 and higher for public reviews lose their value as the items being ranked are generally not linear from one day to the next. today I might like apple > pear > banana while tomorrow it might be banana > apple > pear.
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[chrisaldrich] I imagine someone has done some research on it in the area of behavioral economics, but it seems illustrative that for repeat consumption few/no UI's clear out your prior ratings (for something like repeat watchings of movies) to collect new data to allow them to show an average over time.
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[jeremycherfas] Your preferences are non-transitive? I’m shocked.
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[chrisaldrich] Yes Peter Lorre...
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[chrisaldrich] I do sort of wished I had done individual ratings for all the episodes of West Wing I've seen multiple times to see what the spread would look like...
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[jeremycherfas] Did he play Captain Reynaud? I always forget.
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[chrisaldrich] Wait, I think it was Claude Rains who was. Lorre was Ugarte...
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[jeremycherfas] I think you’re right.
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GWG Okay, to accommodate all of my European visitors, all my weather stations now have a URL that will display all stats in metric/celsius.
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GWG As does my website
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[tantek] GWG, more than Europeans, but rather, 95% of the world (though what % of those actually visit your site from metricated nations is a different question) https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/55895/countries-havent-adopted-metric-system
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GWG [tantek]: I don't have a large contingent from other places though, according to my analysis.
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GWG Mostly Americans, Canadians, and Europeans.
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GWG Same as IWC. We don't have much coverage on the other continents.
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[tantek] maybe flip the default? and special case for US IP addresses
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GWG the storage default is metric.
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GWG The display default for me is not.
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GWG So I have a special URL for it
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[tantek] ah that's a smart point to perhaps discuss more in #indieweb-dev - storage of units
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btrem If this is the wrong place to ask, feel free to rap me on the knuckles. I'm thinking of switching my website from simple html files to eleventy. But I still want to serve it on a shared host as a static site. I don't know much about eleventy, but is that a good way to go?
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btrem https://github.com/craigbuckler/11ty-starter Is that starter a good way to go to get started quickly? I don't want to learn a complicated build process if that can be avoided. A simple template system and the ability to do simple blogging. I think.
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Zegnat Eleventy is what they call a static site generator. The whole idea is that you can run it on a set of files, and it outputs "simple html files". So you could run it locally and publish the output on a shared host in exactly the same way you do with your HTML today.
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Zegnat I have not personally looked at the starter or used it, so cannot comment on that. But there might be some examples on the wiki.
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Zegnat What is eleventy?
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Loqi Eleventy is a JavaScript based static site generator that allows the user to select their own preferred template engine and theme, which in practice can and does enable use of microformats2 https://indieweb.org/Eleventy
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Loqi [craigbuckler] 11ty-starter: 11ty starter site with example code and how-tos.