#indieweb 2021-01-04
2021-01-04 UTC
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[Raphael_Luckom] yeah that was a very interesting read
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# btrem rrix: I put that on my to-read list. Looks interesting.
# btrem I think I need a primer on webmentions and rsvp. Do I ask that here? Or in #microformats?
# btrem GWG: thanks, I posted in #indieweb-dev.
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# maxwelljoslyn how *do* you do that?
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# btrem I'm using webchat.freenode.net. If you are as well, go to the top right corner of the screen.
# btrem It says "freenode ..."
# btrem click the "..."
# btrem click the "+" icon and type in the name of the second channel you want to join.
# btrem This assumes you're using webchat.freenode.net and your browser is on a laptop, e.g., wide enough to accommodate the layout that I see.
# btrem hth
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# DentistChair h
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jeremycherfas Hello IndieWeb and gwg
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# jeremycherfas Absolutely nothing. I did bookmark a thing that can stick a phase of the moon emoji in to anything, and am still pondering the existential Why?
# jeremycherfas But I know I am an old fuddy duddy.
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# [Raphael_Luckom] One of my friends has a saying I really like, but you have to say it in a full JFK-voice "We choose to to these things, not because they are easy, but because _we thought they would be easy at the time_"
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# jeremycherfas That's very good, both of you.
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# jeremycherfas I think I'd want it to be a permanent thing marking moon phase when the post was published. Probably simpler to implement too.
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# clawfire Hi everyone. I discovered Indieweb.org a few days ago (through webmentions) and I'm in love with all the ideas and impressed by the work done here.
# clawfire I'm trying to use webmentions on my blogs, still in progress 'cause ... not find how to make it work for now 😁
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# hoschi Hi clawfire
# hoschi Just start into it. I also discovered it like one or two weeks ago and now I am busy having fun with finding out everything from scratch 😄 I guess that's me just exploring a new reason to do webdevelopment.
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# hoschi I would say this is a pretty exciting learning experience in addition to being able to express ourselfs without having to rely on silo-style social media.
# hoschi clawfire: is there anything specifically that you need to know for now?
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# clawfire @hoschi well I have my blogs made with jekyll and deployed on netlify right now. I added the jekyll-webmention_io gem and added the tags, building , everything seems good. Now I'm trying to understand WHEN I should got webmentions popping. Like. I posted on of my article on social media. I guess it's not triggering webmentions (I'm using Bridgy) when I am posting about it
# clawfire and should wait some reactions on my tweet (for example) before seeing anything incoming
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# hoschi @clawfire Okay. When someone comments/replies to your post on social media, bridy will then send this information in the form of a webmention to webmention.io; as soon as your webpage builds after that, the jekyll-webmention_io gem will pull this webmention to your site.
# clawfire But I should be able to see it into webmention.io dashboard too I think right ?
# hoschi So yes, the webmention will only be sent when there is a reaction to your tweet. The bridgy documentation should list, which events exactly are send as a webmention.
# hoschi Exactly, before the webmention even arrives at your webpage it will be shownn in the webmention.io dashboard.
# clawfire well I didn't find it on Bidgy (on the about page) but maybe it's hidden somewhere else.
# clawfire ok so I gonna ask some people to react to my tweet to check that :p
# clawfire Thanks
# hoschi Your welcome.
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# hoschi @clawfire You can find a list of things that trigger a webmention at https://brid.gy/about#which
# hoschi These include Twitter @-replies, retweets, quote tweets, and likes of your tweets.
# clawfire Oh nice. Thanks
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# hoschi thats right. but it is a good starting point i think.
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[chrisaldrich] A well done take on newsletters with some commentary: https://www.robinrendle.com/essays/newsletters
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[KevinMarks] what is manual until it hurts?
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Loqi manual until it hurts is an indieweb principle of resisting automation until you have done it enough times to really understand it, and know that it is worth doing https://indieweb.org/manual_until_it_hurts
# [KevinMarks] manual until it hurts << https://blog.steren.fr/2020/my-stack-will-outlive-yours/
# Loqi ok, I added "https://blog.steren.fr/2020/my-stack-will-outlive-yours/" to the "See Also" section of /manual_until_it_hurts https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74170&oldid=72944