#indieweb 2021-01-04

2021-01-04 UTC
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[Raphael_Luckom]
yeah that was a very interesting read
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btrem
rrix: I put that on my to-read list. Looks interesting.
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btrem
I think I need a primer on webmentions and rsvp. Do I ask that here? Or in #microformats?
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GWG
btrem: #indieweb-dev
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GWG
#microformats wouldn't cover webmentions.
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btrem
GWG: thanks, I posted in #indieweb-dev.
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maxwelljoslyn
how *do* you do that?
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Loqi
[btrem] I just stumbled on how to join two indieweb channels in the same browser tab. (:
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btrem
I'm using webchat.freenode.net. If you are as well, go to the top right corner of the screen.
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btrem
It says "freenode ..."
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btrem
click the "..."
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btrem
click the "+" icon and type in the name of the second channel you want to join.
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btrem
This assumes you're using webchat.freenode.net and your browser is on a laptop, e.g., wide enough to accommodate the layout that I see.
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deltab
you might also be able to use /join
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DentistChair
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GWG
Morning campers
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jeremycherfas
Hello IndieWeb and gwg
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GWG
jeremycherfas: What is new in your personal Indieweb this morning?
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jeremycherfas
Absolutely nothing. I did bookmark a thing that can stick a phase of the moon emoji in to anything, and am still pondering the existential Why?
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jeremycherfas
But I know I am an old fuddy duddy.
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GWG
Because we can
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[Raphael_Luckom]
One of my friends has a saying I really like, but you have to say it in a full JFK-voice "We choose to to these things, not because they are easy, but because _we thought they would be easy at the time_"
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GWG
[Raphael_Luckom]: Well, jeremycherfas is talking about a moonshot
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jeremycherfas
That's very good, both of you.
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Zegnat
Oooh, moon phase, yeah, why not! Easter egg: my local time as shown on my homepage adjusts the clock emoji to be in the state closest to the current time
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jeremycherfas
I think I'd want it to be a permanent thing marking moon phase when the post was published. Probably simpler to implement too.
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GWG
Zegnat: Fun one, I should steal that
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clawfire
Hi everyone. I discovered Indieweb.org a few days ago (through webmentions) and I'm in love with all the ideas and impressed by the work done here.
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clawfire
I'm trying to use webmentions on my blogs, still in progress 'cause ... not find how to make it work for now 😁
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hoschi
Hi clawfire
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hoschi
Just start into it. I also discovered it like one or two weeks ago and now I am busy having fun with finding out everything from scratch 😄 I guess that's me just exploring a new reason to do webdevelopment.
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hoschi
I would say this is a pretty exciting learning experience in addition to being able to express ourselfs without having to rely on silo-style social media.
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hoschi
clawfire: is there anything specifically that you need to know for now?
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clawfire
@hoschi well I have my blogs made with jekyll and deployed on netlify right now. I added the jekyll-webmention_io gem and added the tags, building , everything seems good. Now I'm trying to understand WHEN I should got webmentions popping. Like. I posted on of my article on social media. I guess it's not triggering webmentions (I'm using Bridgy) when I am posting about it
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clawfire
and should wait some reactions on my tweet (for example) before seeing anything incoming
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hoschi
@clawfire Okay. When someone comments/replies to your post on social media, bridy will then send this information in the form of a webmention to webmention.io; as soon as your webpage builds after that, the jekyll-webmention_io gem will pull this webmention to your site.
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clawfire
But I should be able to see it into webmention.io dashboard too I think right ?
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hoschi
So yes, the webmention will only be sent when there is a reaction to your tweet. The bridgy documentation should list, which events exactly are send as a webmention.
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hoschi
Exactly, before the webmention even arrives at your webpage it will be shownn in the webmention.io dashboard.
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clawfire
well I didn't find it on Bidgy (on the about page) but maybe it's hidden somewhere else.
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clawfire
ok so I gonna ask some people to react to my tweet to check that :p
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clawfire
Thanks
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hoschi
Your welcome.
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hoschi
@clawfire You can find a list of things that trigger a webmention at https://brid.gy/about#which
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hoschi
These include Twitter @-replies, retweets, quote tweets, and likes of your tweets.
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clawfire
Oh nice. Thanks
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GWG
Also, you don't need webmention.io to do webmentions...it is just a hosted provider
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hoschi
thats right. but it is a good starting point i think.
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[chrisaldrich]
A well done take on newsletters with some commentary: https://www.robinrendle.com/essays/newsletters
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[KevinMarks]
what is manual until it hurts?
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Loqi
manual until it hurts is an indieweb principle of resisting automation until you have done it enough times to really understand it, and know that it is worth doing https://indieweb.org/manual_until_it_hurts
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://blog.steren.fr/2020/my-stack-will-outlive-yours/" to the "See Also" section of /manual_until_it_hurts https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74170&oldid=72944