#indieweb 2021-01-19

2021-01-19 UTC
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[jeremycherfas] !tell pengolod Textual here too and it mostly just works. I also use lunarbnc.de as a bouncer to keep history.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jeremycherfas] Oops. Lunarbnc.net
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[KevinMarks] even <title> tags are hidden metadata these days https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1351473920172462083?s=20
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@balajis The "DVDs" are the tell https://twitter.com/bscholl/status/1351320230098739201 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsFmV91UwAIirnr.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1351473920172462083)
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[Rob_Watts] Hi all, just seen indieweb and loving it. Am in middle of slow process to extract myself from the main platforms and create a space for myself. I’ll use the great examples in your community to inspire me 😄
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nekr0z [Rob_Watts]: Welcome!
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cbradford[m] <[Rob_Watts] "Hi all, just seen indieweb and l"> While not in the vane of selfhosting, here are a few lists I have used to rid Google from my life. It isn't the full move to selfhosting, but at least moves away from places that have too much centralized control:
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Seirdy does anybody know of any software that can grab webmentions and send from Fediverse (specifically, Pleroma) accounts without running a daemon like brid.gy? I'd like to run a command in CI that can connect to my Pleroma account and fetch webmentions from replies to a syndicated status.
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Seirdy if not, i just might write one...
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[tantek] Seirdy, definitely a #indieweb-dev question, the rest of us might be scared by the prospect of daemons running around. 😈
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Seirdy oh wrong chan i actually thought this was "-dev" since my buflist truncates, ugh.
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Seirdy expands the buflist a few chars
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Seirdy [tantek]: tho im actually asking this bc im scared of that too; im looking for something as an alternative to daemons (i.e., a run-once command rather than a run-forever command). moving to -dev.
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[tantek] thank you Seirdy! 🙂
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[KevinMarks] Interesting https://twitter.com/DavidSpinks/status/1351581188662681603?s=20
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@DavidSpinks Five ways to make your community onboarding better: 1. Send a very personalized welcome email 2. Add a unique ritual that all new members do 3. Invite to an initiation event for new members 4. Create a welcome committee 5. Assign them a buddy or mentor (twitter.com/_/status/1351581188662681603)
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] sounds #indieweb-meta 🙂
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[Rob_Watts] ↩️ Hey thanks for this - I think you message must have got truncated as the list wasn’t posted?
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[tantek]1 YouTube << Criticism: actively profits from promotions for violence: https://twitter.com/CCDHate/status/1350111425772064774
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@CCDHate THREAD: YouTube suspended Donald Trump for inciting violence and telling lies. But YouTube still makes big $$ off videos likes this one blaming "antifa" for the riots and talking about "civil war". @YouTube stop profiting from extremism and lies. https://twitter.com/CCDHate/status/1350111425772064774/video/1 (twitter.com/_/status/1350111425772064774)
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism: actively profits from promotions for violence: https://twitter.com/CCDHate/status/1350111425772064774" to the "See Also" section of /YouTube https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74303&oldid=72638
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pengolod nice
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Loqi pengolod: [jeremycherfas] left you a message 16 hours, 32 minutes ago: Textual here too and it mostly just works. I also use lunarbnc.de as a bouncer to keep history.
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pengolod oooh what is @Loqi ? a bot?
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pengolod what do y'all think of the web monetization api / cinnammon / coil?
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pengolod I'll check out lunarbnc.net - thanks jeremycherfas
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jacky pengolod: it's interesting - I haven't seen it not associated to cryptocurrencies but I do like the idea of making it easy to monetize things that's more in the hands of the user
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jacky I'd _love_ to see it in a more open approach that doesn't have coil as the core - is that a result of implementation complexity?
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pengolod well, i believe that the api is an open spec, just that Coil and other companies are the main implementations - https://webmonetization.org/
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jacky Coil seems to be the only provider
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pengolod https://github.com/WICG/webmonetization yeah :/
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jacky ahhh but they have bridges via the ILP-enabled wallets
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jacky that's kinda annoying
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Loqi [WICG] webmonetization: Proposed Web Monetization standard
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jacky oh I misspoke re: cryptocurrency
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jacky I don't know how/why they got associated
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pengolod it's a lil weird that paying and receiving money are different?
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jacky lol right
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pengolod it makes sense to think so since they work via a ledger, but it's not a cryptocurrency?
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jacky it's kinda like a 'distributed' clearing house, IIRC
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pengolod I set it up on my website, it was just a couple of meta tags, though I think 100% of my income from it has been from me viewing my own site lol
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jacky a good friend of mine works at https://www.stellar.org/ and I think they helped with making https://interledger.org/
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jacky pengolod: lol that's something I'd want to avoid for sure
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pengolod i suppose i should be removing the meta tags from the dev server lol
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jacky lol :)
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pengolod done :)
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pengolod https://cinnamon.video fits into being a project that's a cool idea but fails for me partially b/c there's not enough interesting content / the interface is kinda wack - it's a youtube clone that's setup like tiktok?
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jacky is going to nudge to move this into #indieweb-chat
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pengolod 👌
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