#indieweb 2021-01-25

2021-01-25 UTC
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[KevinMarks]
This is an eccentric essay about indieweb goals https://www.robinrendle.com/essays/newsletters
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[tantek]
yeah it's a bit odd
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GWG
I'm still working on automatic location display presentation. My current code gave me things like Florida, United States
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GWG
When I could do better
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GWG
Should I omit country when it's my home country?
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GWG
How would that read to non Americans?
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[KevinMarks]
it makes sense as disambiguation, given how many name collisions there are
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[KevinMarks]
Georgia, USA
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GWG
[KevinMarks]: Adding the United States or not adding it?
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GWG
I don't think there is an Atlanta in the other Georgia though
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GWG
Also, I'm exploring country and state codes over full names
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[tantek]
GWG, you could use ABBR for this
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GWG
What is ABBR?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "ABBR" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "ABBR is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
GWG, I mean you could show only the "local name" that has relevance to you and then offer an expansion in the code
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[tantek]
Going to #indieweb-dev for more code/markup talk...
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GWG
I am more thinking about human readable
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[tantek]
I think it's ok to use short names that have contextual relevance to you and then include details in markup
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GWG
Should I omit USA?
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GWG
Also, three or two letter country codes?
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[tantek]
omit from the your default visible text? yes I think so because your whole blog already has an implied context of USA
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GWG
[tantek]: Maybe I will make up a list
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GWG
Like...how should I display being at the Empire State Building? An airport? Trafalgar Square? The Western Wall ..that weird radio tower in Berlin...
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GWG
Then I can come up with some logic
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GWG
I am currently letting the reverse geocoding provider dictate the display.. instead of generating my own using the pieces they give me
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GWG
wonders if he is obsessing about minutiae
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[schmarty]
GWG: you are obsessing about minutiae. :}
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[KevinMarks]
It is a hard problem. Remember flickr reverse engineering names for locations from tags in photos?
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GWG
[schmarty]: Is that always a bad thing?
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GWG
[KevinMarks]: No, but can imagine
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GWG
[KevinMarks]: How would you write a descriptor for the Tower of London?
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GWG
I got a bit annoyed about several data sources putting the Western Wall in Palestine...but that's a political firecracker
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[timothy_chambe]
By the way, is there one implementation of a Indieweb reader toolset that has evolved further along than the others? Are Monocle and Indigenous still in active development? https://indieweb.org/reader
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aaronpk
i haven't made many changes to monocle recently, but that's because it's working well for me. i still use it literally every day
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[eddie]
Hey Tim πŸ‘‹ Indigenous for iOS is not in active development. I'm not sure about Android, swentel can speak to that.
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GWG
[eddie]!!
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[eddie]
Hey GWG πŸ™‚
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GWG
[eddie]: I miss your website
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[eddie]
I miss my website too 😞
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Loqi
misses your website too
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[eddie]
Thanks Loqi! :smiling_face_with_tear:
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Loqi
you're welcome, [eddie]
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[eddie]
❀
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[eddie]
I set up a new server, so hopefully my website or some form of it will come back to life shortly πŸ™‚
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GWG
[eddie]: Will it still snow when appropriate?
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[eddie]
Yep. Although we haven’t gotten snow lately lol
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GWG
[eddie]: I have no snow gauge alas
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GWG
[eddie]: If you are free, you should join us at HWC Americas on Wednesdays.. would be great to see your digital presence
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[eddie]
Thanks! I do think about it occasionally. I’m hoping to join one of these weeks πŸ™‚
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GWG
[eddie]: I will keep a light on
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[eddie]
πŸ‘
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[chrisaldrich]
It's cold enough here that the rain was coming down as snow for a few minutes here in Los Angeles. Then it quit after about 5 minutes. I've seen hail half a dozen times in 20+ years, but never snow.
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