#indieweb 2021-01-27

2021-01-27 UTC
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[tantek]
What is BirdWatch
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "BirdWatch" yet. Would you like to create it?_ (Or just say "BirdWatch is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
Anyone seen / tried this? https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/01/25/twitter-crowdsourced-fact-checking-project-birdwatch/ — would seem to be perhaps tangentially relevant to the Respectful Responses pop-up we held
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rsheftel8
Looks like a way for bully mobs to silence people and cloak it under the banner of "fact checking"
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@tiffanycli
I have MANY concerns with Birdwatch. Unlike Wikipedia, Twitter is not one cohesive community, and users are not dedicated to a common purpose of sharing knowledge. Imagine the harassment and disinfo you already see in replies and QTs, but transposed to a “fact check” context! https://twitter.com/BrandyZadrozny/status/1353764843732480001
(twitter.com/_/status/1353770900487720964)
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@TheDreamSociety
@JulieOwenMoylan @Familoo Er, isn't that replies and retweets are for? Or am i missing something?
(twitter.com/_/status/1353777580948779009)
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GWG
I think I improved my location display to some consistent rules.
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GWG
Anyone have some coordinates I can test?
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[KevinMarks]
54.542856390834615, -1.1826287908743103
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[KevinMarks]
51.424001 , -0.075526420
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GWG
Where are they supposed to be, or should I just tell you what I get?
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[KevinMarks]
tell me what you get
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GWG
[KevinMarks]: Will do. Have some work stuff first. Have to train the masses
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[KevinMarks]
you can look on the map - the first 1 has way too many sig figs for where I clicked tbh
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GWG
I want to test it against my code
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[timothy_chambe]
Hi all. So with the help of some folks here I started an instance on Mastodon just exploring the places where #Indieweb and #Fediverse related technologies bridge to each other and to evangelize Indieweb tech to that space. We're have generated lots of followers from other instances and over 580 peeople have created brand new accounts and made this their Fediverse home. Accounts here have creaated over 4,000 posts mostly on topic.
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[timothy_chambe]
I'm updating this page (many of you are already on it) and if there are anyone here that syndicate to Mastodon and want to be added let me know.
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petermolnar
[timothy_chambe]: some of us definitely use fed.brid.gy (are we frid.gy already, though?) meaning some indieweb sites exist in fediverse as @example.net@example.net
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petermolnar
how would that tie into your specific instance?
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[tantek]1
go get it snarfed!
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[tantek]1
now that you've posted in a publicly archived chat 😛
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[snarfed]
[timothy_chambe] also https://brid.gy/ ’s own Mastodon support, which is distinct from https://fed.brid.gy/ . (yes, i’m a horrible product manager 😁)
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chiragdi
[timothy_chambe]: Switching.social link is broken
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chiragdi
(which is the very first link under Who to follow?)
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chiragdi
[timothy_chambe]: Last sentence on the page typo: "This list will be frowing over time"
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[timothy_chambe]
I'm cleaning up the dead links for sure, and the typo. Thanks!
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chiragdi
No problem!
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[KevinMarks]
Are you hosting your own instance compiled from source?
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GWG
[KevinMarks]: The first set... Nominatim - "Old House, Middlesbrough, Redcar and Cleveland, GB", Mapquest, "Old House, GB", OpenMapQuest, "Old House, Middlesbrough, Redcar and Cleveland, GB", Google - "Church Ln 50, Ormesby, England, GB", HERE - "A174, Middlesbrough, TS7 9, United Kingdom, Middlesbrough, England, GB", Bing - "A174, Ormesby, England, GB", LocationIQ - "Old House, Middlesbrough,
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GWG
Redcar and Cleveland, GB", Geonames - "Ormesby, ENG, GB", OpenRoute - "Ormesby Hall, Redcar, North Yorkshire, GB"
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GWG
[KevinMarks]: How's that?
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hadvanX
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[KevinMarks]
It's on the lawn of Ormesby Hall, so the last one is mostly right. The confusion between Middlesbrough (the post town) and Redcar and Cleveland (the county) and Redcar (a town 6 miles away) is common
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[KevinMarks]
The challenge is mapping the UK's messy set of jurisdictions to the vcard levels
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[KevinMarks]
A174 is the nearby big road, but it's not exactly accessible from there, so that would be a miss
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GWG
OpenRoute is using Pelias...which is open source...I could run my own if I had a high RAM computer and many GBs of storage
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GWG
[KevinMarks]: Google was disappointing
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GWG
It didn't get the White House
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[Raphael_Luckom]
they used to insert drift in the GPS system around DC so that adversaries wouldn't be able to use it for targeting. I'm not sure it was ever actually effective and I think they stopped doing it
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jacky
makes sense but eh
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[schmarty]
that used to be true everywhere! it was called Selective Availability.
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GWG
I also tried the Western Wall, the hotel I stayed at in Bulgaria, the Drug Enforcement Administration museum, the Aisling Hotel in Dublin...
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[timothy_chambe]
↩️ Right now i'm hosting the version at Mastohost...but if it gained momentum I and others who wanted to help program I was thinking down the road we could host directly and even extend the instance or even fork the code with some Indieweb extensions that could be submitted back to the Mastodon developers
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GWG
[KevinMarks]: The challenge is mapping any of the geocoder categories to consistent properties
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[KevinMarks]
yes, quite.
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petermolnar
[timothy_chambe]: my message probably got lost; any recommendations on how to include those who are already using fed.brid.gy, and so they are sort of their own fediverse instance with their website in indieweb.social?
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GWG
[KevinMarks]: It's still better than when it was doing Rome, Rome, Italy.
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jacky
petermolnar: IIRC I don't think you can
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jacky
(and it's like a problem that Mastodon could easily fix if they supported something like IndieAuth but _shrugs_)
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jacky
I think they had a ticket for it
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petermolnar
no, involve as community
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aaronpk
mine is listed on there already just as a link
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[KevinMarks]
isn't rome, rome, italy a bit like new york, new york, usa
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GWG
[KevinMarks]: I fixed that to New York, NY.
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GWG
But now it's a bit better... nothing but me hand fixing it will make it perfect
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[snarfed]
random observation of the day: https://twitter.com/indieweb links to http://indieweb.com/ which (now) redirects to http://indieballard.com/ . whee
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[timothy_chambe]
↩️ One thought down the road is to do a light fork of the mastodon code to allwo sign up via indie auth and then offer that code to the mastodev community. But that would be way down the road and require i self-host the fork etc.
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aaronpk
[snarfed]: that twitter account has always linked to indieweb.com, I don't know who has it
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[snarfed]
right! indieballard.com is new to me though
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aaronpk
🤷‍♂️
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