#indieweb 2021-02-23

2021-02-23 UTC
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GWG I updated my On This Day widget. Today I have posts from 3 years. https://david.shanske.com/
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Ruxton GWG: have you released that widget?
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GWG Ruxton: That widget has been in Post Kinds for a while now. I just updated the look
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GWG Ruxton: why do you ask?
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GWG I was inspired by those sites that show you... 1 year ago photos.
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Ruxton GWG: ahh hadn't noticed it before and was wondering where to get it :P
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GWG Ruxton: If you have any suggestions about styling, I love those. I spent a bit of time trying to get it right.
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[KevinMarks] This is good https://baekdal.com/trends/facebook-vs-publishers-what-is-really-going-on-and-why-is-it-bad/
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[KevinMarks] Interesting https://gitlab.com/jam-systems/jam
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[schmarty] The Baekdal piece has a lot of grumping to wade through but had some good points.
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[schmarty] For example, that search engines serve a need which news publishers do not, that news publisher content in search engines already provides the publishers value, and that taxing search engines when they index certain content is a link tax and damaging to the idea of the web.
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[schmarty] Similarly the idea that Facebook should pay when someone shares a news article there is silly in the context of FB being a way for individuals to connect and share.
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[schmarty] (It arguable whether FB in the context of a promoting the most provoking content to users to drive a viral engagement engine, is still a different information "need" than publishers fill)
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[tantek] it fills the "need" that authoritarians have for riling up the public's emotions so they disconnect from reasoning about their own needs
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[tantek] on another topic, is anyone using GitHub issues for comments on their posts? e.g. this issue seems to be setup to literally be the comment thread for a particular post: https://github.com/karlcow/otsukare.info/issues/2
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Loqi [karlcow] #2 Browser Wish List - Bookmark This Selection
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[tantek] ^ [KevinMarks] you may also want to comment on that regarding Fragmentions and presumably using that Browser Add-on to be able to make/bookmark fragmentions on any site right?
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[tantek] (assuming the add-on still works, if it doesn't, that's worth point to as work in progress!)
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aaronpk That's a neat idea
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aaronpk I suppose bridgy would make that possible already
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[snarfed] tantek aaronpk: https://utteranc.es/
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[tantek] This feels like something worth documenting, not sure where
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[tantek] comments << Example: using GitHub issues for comments on their posts: this issue seems to be setup to literally be the comment thread for a particular post: https://github.com/karlcow/otsukare.info/issues/2 — which if the issue was marked up as a syndication of the post, Bridgy could backfeed the issue comments to the post! See also https://utteranc.es/
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Loqi ok, I added "Example: using GitHub issues for comments on their posts: this issue seems to be setup to literally be the comment thread for a particular post: https://github.com/karlcow/otsukare.info/issues/2 — which if the issue was marked up as a syndication of the post, Bridgy could backfeed the issue comments to the post! See also https://utteranc.es/" to the "See Also" section of /comments https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74692&oldid=74435
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[KevinMarks] Kate Losse is now being quoted in Newspaper satire: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/19/mark-zuckerberg-facebook-news-australia-power
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jacky random: does anyone grab news and/or events from Wikipedia?
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jacky I'm curious about using it as my 'primary' news outlet (since it's implicitly cited)
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jacky might have to look into this
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[jeremycherfas] I subscribe to the automated feed that is based on Wikipedia. Can’t remember it’s name right now. Literal News?
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[jeremycherfas] It is Legible News. I find it useful. https://legiblenews.com
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[KevinMarks] I subscribe to that too but don't tend to read it
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alex11 what, you don't want your news to have an autoplaying video that opens in its own mini-window as you scroll down?
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alex11 what is wrong with you?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "wrong with you" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "wrong with you is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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alex11 shut up
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[tantek] wrong with you is nothing, you are enough.
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Loqi ok
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jacky alex11: I _hate_ when that happens, lol
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[tantek] is here for it 😄
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